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How many people bookmark your site?

How much is a good % (1%, 5%, 10%, 50%)

         

silverbytes

4:38 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello!
How many people bookmark your site?

I have some 20 each week. I'm happy that people consider my site in her his favs.
But I wonder how much is a good %...
Looking in the last month is some 2 to 4 % of my visitors.

txbakers

6:31 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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how can you tell if a site has been bookmarked?

Llama

6:36 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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AWStats, I believe, says how many people have added you to their favorites. However, it says that it's an estimate.

pmac

7:21 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>how can you tell if a site has been bookmarked<

A request for favicon.ico

pmkpmk

8:03 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The request of favicon only shows the site has been bookmarked when the browser is Internet Explorer. If the browser is Mozilla, the favivon is requested on every visit and displayed automatically in the title bar.

As far as I know, there is NO secure way to tell yor site has been bookmarked! (Correct me if I'm wrong)

silverbytes

1:35 am on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I was counting favicons only... as far as I know is the 96% of my visitor's browsers... so I don't care much about others

pageoneresults

1:44 am on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If the browser is Mozilla, the favivon is requested on every visit and displayed automatically in the title bar.

I think that can be overcome by looking at the browser statistics and then taking the percentage of Moz and deduct it from the total.

I see an average of 20-35% depending on the industry. If you have an information site and it offers fresh good content, expect that number to be on the higher side.

It is also nice to know which page the user bookmarked.

pmkpmk

2:57 pm on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think that can be overcome by looking at the browser statistics and then taking the percentage of Moz and deduct it from the total.

That's actually what I wanted to point out :-)

silverbytes

3:45 pm on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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copying the favicon.ico and renaming it as favivon.ico would be enough to detect mozilla browser too then?

However... the original question was? is a 2% of visitor bookmarking your site a good rate?

pageoneresults

3:49 pm on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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copying the favicon.ico and renaming it as favivon.ico would be enough to detect mozilla browser too then?

No. The file must be named favicon.ico.

Is a 2% of visitor bookmarking your site a good rate?

Based on averages? No.

silverbytes

3:56 pm on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I already have a favicon.ico and that detetcts iexplorer favorites... not mozilla.

Am I right?

RammsteinNicCage

4:00 pm on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It depends on what way you look at it. If you have 50% of people bookmarking your site, that might mean that a lot of people like your site, but you aren't getting a lot of return visitors. If they were returning a lot, they would be counted as visitors that aren't bookmarking which should lower the percentage. Did that make sense?

Jennifer

pmkpmk

4:08 pm on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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However... the original question was? is a 2% of visitor bookmarking your site a good rate?

That depends who and what you are. I need to browse hp.com very frequently. I haven't bookmarked them, because I have typed the address faster than I would have searched the bookmark.

I rarely bookmark highly dynamic sites because the next time I use the bookmark the page does not exist anymore and I either get a site-search or a 404.

I already have a favicon.ico and that detetcts iexplorer favorites... not mozilla. Am I right?

Only if you take the browser identification into account as well. If you ONLY look for requests for the file, then you'll get BOTH!

silverbytes

5:57 pm on Apr 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's more complex than I though then...

I have returning visitors but can't exclude myself so my own visits makes hard to tell who are the returning visitors.

Also have many direct request (a 50% of total visits) but how to get a close idea of how is that related with my visitors behaviour...

pmkpmk

6:47 pm on Apr 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Any decent web-stats package should either be possible to ignore your own IP from the stats and/or to do some basic new-vs-returning visitor count via cookies or session ID's.

If there is NO way for you to exclude your own visits from the log, think about mirroring your site on a seperate hostname only known to you. You use this hostname to visit your site - all the others use the primary hostname.

satinder

3:53 pm on Apr 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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these figures are only aprox estimates

Woz

12:20 am on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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*bumping thread* ;)

JAB Creations

5:27 am on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Use this...


<link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://www.yourdomain.com/youricon.ico">

You can use that for a page to overwrite the favicon default for a page. Keep in mind not all browsers are finished prodcts (actually none of them are...eh).

You'll then be able to check your logs/reports to see how many times that ico file has been accessed. Gecko browsers do or will support png formats.

bill

7:23 am on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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...so how would you account for all the hits that Mozilla and Opera browsers (and others) make when they call your icon file for display in their tabs and address bars? I don't see how that would help track bookmarks with today's crop of browsers.

MatthewHSE

12:01 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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About 30-40% of my visitors bookmark my site, according to AWstats. I have a large "Add This Page to Your Favorites!" link on most pages as a convenient way for people to do it. (Actually it's a JavaScript that prints a link for IE and CTRL + D instructions for other browsers.)