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5:23 am on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nobody has to answer this, so feel free to not to if you don't want to. There is no real point except I was interest if the majority of us are in the millions or top 50k

Mine is 670,000s after 4 months with 75 articles. My first site, its growing fast, I'm hoping for 750 articles before the end of the year (I got 4 months completely free to work on site in summer)

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I've found if you visit your own site from 2-3 ips (home, office, etc) on a regular basis (daily) from browsers that all have alexa installed... that your alexa ranking will be around 12k to 20k range.
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I don't know and I don't really care.

I looked at the toolbar once and decided it was spyware and never went back.

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Alexa stats are useful if, and only if, you understand their limitations.

Unless you're looking at a big traffic site, then short term stats are hugely inaccurate, however if you look at the three months stats or better still the one and two year traffic trends, then they'll give you a much better picture.

For example, look at the two year trend for looksmart.com and then compare with webmasterworld.com - this tells you a *lot* about the fortunes of these two sites.

However, if you're looking at lower traffic sites (i.e. the rest of us) then there's another consideration - visitor demographics. I run a variety of web sites and I've come to the conclusion that certain visitor demographics are much more likely to have the Alexa toolbar installed than others. If you want to compare site statistics, it's important to pick something with similar demographics to get a fair comparison.

Usually any thread I read about Alexa turns into an argument. But it's not all it's cracked up to be, but it's not completely useless either - like all tools it's knowing how to use it that counts.

Oh yes, the answer to your question is that my top site bubbles along at 50,000-150,000 regardless of how many visitors it gets. The best I ever managed was a ranking of about 5,000 - but that was with only a couple of thousand visitors. Go figure.

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>>I don't know and I don't really care.

Ditto, I couldn't care less! There are multiple irritating ways to manipulate it, and best of luck to those who give a hoot and do so for vacuous PR reasons, for whatever it's worth. More power to them, but some of us still need convincing.

8:01 am on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Alexa?

It's about the willingness to suspend disbelief in the service of pleasuring one's vanity.

8:38 am on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I always wondered: why is the Alexa toolbar considered spyware, but the Google toolbar isn't? Even my spyware/trojan removal tool always wants to get rid of Alexa, but leaves Google alone?

If configured that ways, they BOTH report surfing patterns "back home"... Maybe Alexa is to blame that they don't tell honestly and openly WHAT they actually report back. But we have the believe Google too that they play fair and only report back what they tell us.

What - as a webmaster - I like with the Alexa toolbar is that it shows the 3 most similar sites directly in the bar. With the Googlebar it's two mouseclicks away :-)

Actually at the moment I have all three installed: Google, Yahoo Beta with "WebRank", and Google.

Oh, back on topic: my main site is ~1.800.00 in Alexa (and counting <grin>)

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Never trust "web gurus" that keep bragging about their Alexa ranking ;-)
9:39 am on Mar 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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659,152 after 5 months with an average of 8 unique visitors a day.

I'd say it doesn't mean a thing.

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One of our sites is 298,466 however another site that has an almost equal number of visitors is at 576,466.

Numbers, in my mind, are totally meaningless.

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>>>>Never trust "web gurus" that keep bragging about their Alexa ranking

Absolutely!
It is such an easy thing to manipulate. I know of a "web search scheme.. errr.. company"....cough cough, that brags about its Alexa ranking when talking to potential suckers ... errrr.... investors.

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Personally, I'd like to see a class action lawsuit against Alexa.

They keep misrepresenting my sites without proper disclaimers. Since some people are so clueless as to actually make business decsions based on Alexa numbers, I believe their lousy data has actually cost me money.

As if their crazy-ass rankings are not bad enough, within the last few months they've started mis-reporting on things like site speed and pop-ups. They claim one of my sites has 14% of sessions with pop-ups even though their are none.

The reason, they define any new window opening including target parameters and user initiated actions as a pop-up. So, if someone right clicks and chooses open link in new window (or shift-clicks), Alexa believes this is a pop-up.

I cannot believe Amazon allows such insanity to continue.

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Just broke the 100,000 barrier earlier this month, I'm now in the 93,000 range. Site has been running for about a year, it seems to go down a little bit every month.

As for a class action lawsuit, well ... that's kinda silly really. The information is displayed based on Alexa toolbar users, and that notice is pretty clear everywhere you go as to how accurate it is, etc. It's also very clear that ranks over 100,000 aren't accurate at all.

It's nice to know that at least for sites under 100k you can get an idea of what kind of traffic they get compared to other sites. I find it VERY useful when I'm looking to buy advertising - if a site claims they get millions of visitors a week and their Alexa rank says otherwise, even though I know Alexa isn't completely accurate I would be pretty confident in my decision NOT to buy advertising from that site because the webmaster is lying about how much traffic they get.

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Ranks under 100,000 aren't acurate at all either... The Alexa-toolbar using surfers are not representative of general web surfing public as a group in any way, shape or form.

The mere concept of a polling or ranking service that doesn't even try to take a representative sample and lets people sign up themselves in order to influence their own stats is just pathetic.

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>>why is the Alexa toolbar considered spyware

Read their so-called privacy statement. It spells out in wonderous detail how it will gather all sorts of info about you and feed it back into Amazon's database. Websites you visit, products you purchased, the contents of forms you fill out.

This is worth having for the sake of "rankings" that are questionable at best? Spyware in my book.

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I know of two sites (not mine) that have about the same amount of traffic. Their Alexa rankings differ by a factor of 4 to 5 based on 3 mo. data.

One factor that affect Alexa is the type of site and the typical visitor. Sites I work with (and those of people I know) are visited my many people in businesses using office PCs, with the PCs set up by corporate IT departments. They are not allowed, or at least are not interested, in installing things like Alexa. (The Google tool bar seems to be approved by many company IT people). Part of the Alexa problem is that not many people want to take the time to call the IT department and request that they be allowed to install Alexa.

Sites usually visited by people using their own home PCs will rank better than those usually visited by people at their office desk. Of the two sites I mention above, the best ranking is one tbhat provides computer information to webmasters; the lower rank one provides information about business insurance contracts and related matters.

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I did a quick poll in the office today: about 60% of my colleagues either have the Google or Yahoo toolbar installed, another 5% had BOTH installed. Almost 30% had no toolbar at all installed.

The Alexa toolbar was only installed on ONE PC. Mine. The webmasters's.

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My hobby site / entertainment site where I basically post whatever is fun or funny (to me) is hovering around 122,000. The only ads there are netflix and hotjobs banners (adsense rejected me because I have videos of people streaking, etc.).
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A site I work on has dropped from about 54,000 to 150,000 in Alexa while the traffic (visitors and hits) has actually INCREASED significantly. Can anyone explain that?
11:53 pm on Apr 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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explains one day why I should

Hits=Visitors for most people. Along those lines, if the current metric is Alexa...then use 'em if you got 'em

[edited by: ScottM at 11:54 pm (utc) on April 4, 2004]

11:53 pm on Apr 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This thread is giving me an idea for a site. I could just get and randomly order 100,000 URLs. I'd have a lot of Webmasters visiting to see if they're included.
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<< Hits=Visitors for most people. Along those lines, if the current metric is Alexa...then use 'em if you got 'em >>

Well, I'll grant you this much: When I was still being penalised by Yahoo, the number one site that would show up for my site's name was Alexa.

But then and even now, any visits from Alexa amount to a fraction of a percent. Very negligible.

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I don't know and I don't really care.

I looked at the toolbar once and decided it was spyware and never went back.

Ditto. In fact, Alexa is the one single reason that the ONLY SE I ever use is Google. The rest of 'em give me the shimblenidders....

[Lately, unfortunately, Google is doing some truly strange **** which makes me SERIOUSLY unhappy, such as NOT filtering out sites with "adult" [read "porn", and not even thinly disguised porn!] content and/or images even though explicitly instructed to do so through Preferences; and not adhering to providing search results for sites in English only....

What's up with this anyway?]

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ROTFL

Last week my main site was ~1.800.000.
TODAY, my main site is ~640.000.

Now guess when I installed the Alexa toolbar again :-)

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for those of you interested, Alexa is also thieving scumware....re-inserting their own associate id tag into the tool bar at random moments instead of crediting the associate whose site the toolbar was installed from.

has been discussed to death over at the amazon associate forum where the toolbar is considered one step up from Satan's evil elder brother.

maybe half a step....

10:14 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Before we completely write off Alexa info, I'd say that it CAN be useful in COMPARING high volume sites in the same industry. For example, two major news sites, two major sports sites, etc. There should be enough data to be significant, and the demographics shouldn't vary much (like webmaster vs. non-webmaster audiences). Indeed, if you compare the major basketball league site with the major football (US) league site, you'll see fairly smooth data that exhibits the exact seasonality that one would predict.

Lest I contribute to the hijacking of this thread, I'll also add that I've got sites ranging from the hundred thousands down to the 10,000 range - none are really in the statistically meaningful zone.

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rogerd actually comparing two related sites is often the most problematic using Alexa.

Imagine Site A and Site B both in the same industry, both with the same type of information, both with the same number of visitors. Pretty much exactly the same.

Now Site A goes out and hires a usability consultant who figures out how to improve the navigation so visitors can find information with less clicks. Suddenly Site A's Alexa rating goes up (gets worse) because the toolbar records less avarage pageviews. Site B looks better to Alexa because it has worse usability.

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> 54,000 to 150,000
>has actually INCREASED significantly. Can anyone explain that?

Ya, anything less than 5k is what they call the 'too lame to list' list. It just isn't reliable under 5k.

What free traffic ratings service do you use instead?

3:10 pm on Apr 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Brett you should say anything under 5k that is not a forum site*. Forums distort Alexa even more than other sites because of their use of unique pageviews.

I find [metricsmarket.com...] to be a flawed but better free source of traffic info.

Footnotes
*You also have to discount Alexa itself, and for some reason loads of sites in Korea.

 

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