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WHOIS and privacy

How can I shield my name and address?

         

Maynard

1:32 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am a bit disturbed that my full name, address, email and telephone number appears in the WHOIS registry for all to see when someone searches one of my domains. I know I am silly (perhaps?) for submitting my real details when I registered the domains. Is there any way I can have my personal details obscured?

Maynard.

robotsdobetter

1:40 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, wish we could. Just put some info, but if the cops ever need to look into your site you may get in trouble.

[edited by: robotsdobetter at 3:21 pm (utc) on Mar. 24, 2004]

Brett_Tabke

2:51 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> Is there any way I can have my
> personal details obscured?

Yes, several registrars offer proxy regitrations.

You can also "Self obscure" it by simply registring it in your business name and pointing at a po box.

The other option is to just make up a name. There is nothing illegal about it that anyone can see and offers your best chance at protection and privacy. There are thousands of people here that obscure their whois info on tens of thousands of domains.

percentages

3:10 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>The other option is to just make up a name.

Brett, you should be ashamed of yourself! If you want to register a domain and be anonymous then use the legal method....as Brett said.....the proxy option.

The domain is still registered totally legally, but the owner/admin info is not available to the public.

Personally I think it is a little pricey right now. At GoDaddy one domain name can cost you $5 per year for registration and $10 per year for the proxy.....seems a rip off!

For one domain who cares, but for several thousand it gets a tad expensive.........not for a second do I advocate filing a false name and address though ;)

Brett_Tabke

3:10 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There is nothing illegal about making up a name. What law would possibly apply?

bcolflesh

3:13 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If Congress has their way, it will be illegal in the US:

[wired.com...]

I believe this was mentioned in this forum awhile back.

cyberfyber

3:14 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I myself have all my domains listed with my name and a PO Box. If any authorities need to look into anything, then they should know full well where to find me.

'come to think of it, I might take my name out of there right now and put in my business name instead.

robotsdobetter

3:15 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I emailed them about my info and they said it had to be the right information about me and my site, they also said it was a law (some bill they passed).

cyberfyber

3:23 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You know, come to think of it, my domains are registered and remain with Tera-Byte....which is in Alberta, Canada.

I wonder how that comes to play in any laws? Anyone know?

---- considering what I've just mentioned, US law is simply US law and its reach is only local unless international law is adopted somewhere. 'am I right? or wrong?.....not sure now.

bcolflesh

3:27 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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US law is simply US law and its reach is only local unless...

... you have some natural resources we're interested in ;)

Maybe it's time to seriously look into those .tk and .cx domains.

figment88

3:39 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Another potential problem - I was originally denied entry to Google AdSense because my application name did not match my whois info.

Given the great number of people who obscure their whois info they may have relaxed this requirement.

beren

4:08 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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An incident that made me oppose anonymous websites:

The elementary school down the street has a marquee/billboard out front and one day it listed a website. When I visited the website it was a political message that supported more funding for the school district.

It was inappropriate enough to have a political message on a school marquee, but when I looked up the owner of the website, it was registered under a proxy! This was really bad. Political advertisements on TV and radio and in print always carry the sponsorship information. I'm sure this is a legal requirement. Shouldn't political websites also be accountable so that viewers can tell who is behind them?

And just in general - even non-political websites: the Internet is a better place if as little as possible is behind closed doors. No secrets. If you don't want people knowing your name, don't buy a domain.

cyberfyber

4:33 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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beren,

I can hear where you're coming from.

'but the day that someone is actually able to make all spammers account for their misdeeds and reveal their names, addresses & phone numbers to the public will be the day that I will wholly support what you've mentioned.

---what comes to mind though is the new law which requires any newsletters sent out for commercial or business purposes to include the organization's actual address.......'a step in the right direction? Maybe.
[spamlaws.com...]

But I'd like to share something interesting with you. I've two bank accounts, both of which require my actual home address. But my credit cards are quite happy with my PO Box.
Funny aye?
----
& To add to what Brett_Tabke has mentioned, in the US or at least locally in my state, as a sole proprietor, when worse comes to worse, you could apply for a DBA Name ("doing business as"), and it would all be legit.

'sorry for being so long winded.

percentages

4:55 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>There is nothing illegal about making up a name. What law would possibly apply?

As of today no federal law.....although one is proposed. But, legal and federal law are not always the same thing ;)

In addition would you want to get into a legal wrangle over a domain name and have the opponent question if you were the rightful owner because you supplied a false identity?

Proxy registrations were invented for this purpose, use them if you are concerned about your right to privacy.

Maynard

8:14 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks guys, I will ask my registrar about proxy registrations.

Brett_Tabke

8:45 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Create your OWN proxy registration - don't pay someone else to do the same thing you can do.

Bob's Five and Dime Proxy Service.
Box #lkjlkj
Any Town USA....

There are numerous WebmasterWorld members that act as proxies.

blaze

8:34 pm on Mar 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In the end it has to be traceable back to the owner. Maybe random queries can't pull it up, but a serious request has to be able to get at it.

You can run but you can not hide.

Maynard

11:49 am on Mar 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So if, for example, a WW forum member acts as a proxy for my website then when someone searches WHOIS they will get the proxy details and not my own?