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New EU Spam Laws

         

sem4u

9:06 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Limited EU anti-spam legislation comes into force today.

[news.bbc.co.uk...]

Unsolicited spam can be sent to companies, but it must have an opt-out clause inside it. Spam to consumers is banned.

Critics of the UK approach say the laws do not go far enough and that the maximum £5,000 fine is not high enough.

victor

9:46 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The fine is unlimited if it comes to a jury trial. The GBP5000 is the max a magistrate can slap on.

But yes, it doesn't go far enough. Spammers should have all equipment used in the spamming confiscated, and face long jail terms.

percentages

9:55 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Spammers should have all equipment used in the spamming confiscated, and face long jail terms.

Nonsense....send 'em to Florida and put 'em in the chair ;)

These are real problems, faced by real people, they need real solutions....not a slap on the hands.

PCInk

10:00 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Or maybe we should force Viagra on them ten times a day, every day - see how they like it!

adfree

10:22 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Or maybe we should force Viagra on them ten times a day, every day - see how they like it!"

And nothing but an old goat around in a diameter of 50 miles!

stever

11:14 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Note that there are also references to disclosure of the use of cookies in the legislation.

xcandyman

11:27 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Who do we report to when we get one of these "illegal" spams? Anyone know!

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11:34 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Who do we report to when we get one of these "illegal" spams? Anyone know!

The Hague.....they will be tried and sentenced as war criminals.

On that subject....can anyone explain why that guy got 17 years for 7,000 murders today? That is 21 hours per murder....and the EU wonders why the US doesn't take them seriously?

olias

11:36 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Who do we report to when we get one of these "illegal" spams?

Yeah I've been wondering that too - I don't think the police are going to be best pleased when I call them every 10 minutes to tell them I have a possible illegal spam for them to investigate.

I assume that everyone has the required 1 click opt out of cookies on their site - for me it is called the logout button ;)

sem4u

1:40 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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More here:

[netimperative.com...]

One area that will prove problematic is that of the incentivised viral email campaign - where a recipient is encouraged to circulate the email to friends or colleagues, especially if incentivised to do so. An argument can be made that by incentivising individuals in this way, you would be encouraging individuals to contravene the new Directive, making them lawbreakers themselves.

In the same way, when a website prompts an individual to collect data or email addresses on friends or colleagues of the visitor, to enable the website owners to communicate with those individuals, this could count as harvesting. Because the visitor hasn't had the chance to request permission from those contacts, the website would have no right to communicate with them.

TryAgain

4:50 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Figures vary but AV firms like Sophos and MessageLabs have both warned that between a third to two-thirds of spam is sent from 'hijacked' computers, a factor which makes tracing and prosecuting spammers far more difficult.

[theregister.co.uk...]
Bottom line: as long as the sender of spam cannot be tracked, nothing will stop him.

piskie

4:54 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Castrate them and see it stop overnight.

xcandyman

5:09 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Want to notify of spam? Here's the latest!

A spokeswoman for the Information Commissioner admitted that a complaints form was supposed to be made available on its Web site this morning.

Unfortunately, a "technical reason" meant things didn't quite go to plan.

It's hoped a form - which can either be posted or emailed - should be up and running sometime this afternoon. Fingers' crossed.

Incidentally, the Information Commissioner has asked specifically for people not to "forward all your spam to us".

[theregister.co.uk...]

TheDoctor

9:17 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> Castrate them and see it stop overnight.

Or, at least, within a generation or two :-)

TryAgain

8:11 pm on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Castrate them

Why do you think they hijack computers to send spam? ;)