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WorldCom/MCI or AT&T/Allstream

         

Catnip

6:34 am on Aug 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hello I'm located in Ontario, Canada and need help with making a decision on who to get my T1 from. Should we go with WorldCom/MCI for a burstable T1 at $995.00/month (175GB month) or AT&T/Allstream full T1 for $1000.00/month (promotion will expire September 30 2003. After this date, the price would be $1395/month). Both include the following:

• Dedicated T1 Internet access at 1.5 Mbps
• Local loop circuit cost
• Static IP address assignment, as many as required
• Cisco 2600 series router
• Domain name service (yourcompany.com or.ca, .org, etc.)
• One Professional Plan Dial-Up Account
• 40 e-mail boxes at your domain
• Access to Account Management Tools and Network Utilization Reports

Is WorldCom on a better backbone or anything? Cause AT&T is looking good and cheap! Why use WorldCom I would only be getting a burstable T1 w/175GB a month.

Thanks,

Catnip

BTW: we now use TeraGo wireless 1.5Mbps (cost: $475.00/month), however we find it to undependable for hosting our website (small downtime). However they are a great company if your not hosting.

[edited by: Catnip at 7:03 am (utc) on Aug. 20, 2003]

pearl

6:57 am on Aug 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why do you need to spend $1k per month just for Internet access. You can get that for $100.

The 24 lines you get with the T-1 could be used for voice also if you like. (Did they mention that?)

Do you need 24 voice lines?

Why not just a simple DSL connection? I get 1.5 M DSL with static IP for US$65 per month.

Also, you dont get a "backbone" with your connection, all you get is a wire to your business. The backbone for you will likely be the same regardless of the provider of the local wire.

Catnip

7:10 am on Aug 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Pearl,

$100.00 won't get you anything that great.. We pay $475.00/month now for "crap" (because of the downtime). And there are no phone lines it is 1 fiber data line that they are going to run to our office. The office next to us already uses WorldCom. They do some voice over tcp/ip but u need the hardware. "(T1, Ethernet, or T3), connected directly to MCI's backbone." This is straight from the MCI website and it says the same for Allstream. We can also get a C class with both companies (256 IP's). However we only need around 32. And the Cisco 2600 router is not our property for both companies.

Service guarantee is about the same for both companies.

SERVICE GUARANTEE
ALLSTREAM Internet and E-Business Services customers receive a 99.5% Availability Guarantee. If a customer reports one or more outages, and total downtime results in less than 99.5% availability in that calendar month, ALLSTREAM will credit the customer’s account 25% of the monthly recurring charge. The service is considered available as long as the customer site beyond the demarc of the ALLSTREAM provided router (i.e. workstation or server) can access the Internet. ALLSTREAM measures network availability from a customer centric viewpoint using HP Openview and custom developed tools. These tools poll customer premise routers at 5 minute intervals.

pearl

7:42 am on Aug 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Not voip but straight voice. Talk to techs not sales. Need a router/splitter/some other telco marketing name to handle the voice/data split.

32 ips hmmm... Let me guess. You have 32 websites. I hope you are not paying per IP address. I have many sites and use 1 IP (I should have 2 though).

The local wire wont matter to you (fiber, 24/26 wire bundle, tin can, whatever). Fiber optic will be no faster for you than wires. The "backbone" is no faster than the weakest link in the Internet - so Brand A = Brand B, C, etc.

I would look at alternative providers.

Of course, their service quality and service response time will be very important. You will be hard pressed to guage this until after you buy, though.

plumsauce

4:43 am on Aug 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why bother?

Unless you need physical access to your
box often, colo is a *much* better deal.

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Webwork

2:28 pm on Aug 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've looked into this. Unless you need the pipe running to your physical location colo is the way to go. 1.5 sounds like a lot but if you run a number of websites and one gets popular you will hit bottlenecks. (Divide the 1.5 Meg by average page size to see how many people can be downloading a given page in any given second.)

There are some amazing colo deals out there that provide very fat access pipes for those spikes and a mess of Gigs a month - 100 to 1000 Gigs - for less than $200/month, including the colo server.

SMXwebcrawler

2:48 pm on Aug 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sounds interesting got any examples Webwork? I need to get my hands on something like that...!

Webwork

4:59 pm on Aug 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Try ServerBeach. I find their offers amazing.