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Getting past AOL's Spam Filter

         

suzanne

6:02 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

not sure if this is the right place for this post -- but has anyone out there had any experience working with AOL to ensure their opt-in emails are getting to their customers? They seem to have an extremely aggresive process to filter through even valid emails... If anyone can provide any suggestions or links to additional sources that would be great.

rmccollom

6:11 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm interested in this too. Just sent out our opt-in emails the other day and had a tremendous amount of bounce backs - all aol.

suzanne

6:28 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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what almost worries me more is that our emails don't bounce back -- so they seem to be getting through, but our open rate is pathetic. I wonder if they are getting sorted into a bulk "spam" folder or something...

oilman

7:35 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>open rate is pathetic

what sort of numbers are we talking about here?

rmccollom

8:44 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In my case, I'm speaking of actual bounce backs, not open rate. Bounce backs increased about 6 times the normal rate. Probably 85-90% are from aol accounts.

4crests

9:06 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Happened to me too. I called AOL, and after an eternity on hold, I was able to speak with someone. The woman I spoke with was able to mark my account with a special tag so that the spam filters wouldn't kick in. She made me promise about 3 times that I wasn't sending SPAM. I have had no problems ever since.

rmccollom

9:13 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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4crests,

How long ago did it happen to you? When did you talk to them? This has to be something recently.

4crests

11:46 pm on Feb 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No, this was over a year ago. Maybe I don't send as many emails as you. But, I haven't had any problems since.

rmccollom

2:04 am on Feb 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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4crests,

Thanks for the info. I think something just happened in the last few weeks or so. I've been sending monthly opt-in emails for over two years and have never seen a bounce back rate like this--until a few days ago.

gilmour

4:16 am on Feb 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Long time listener, first time poster, please be gentle.

AOL is a monster. Couple things that will help. Make sure that your list is not sorted alphabetically. A couple other ISPs pick up on this, but not to the degree AOL does.

Keep your list clean, bounces not only slow down your mailing, but creates unecessary issues with AOL.

If it is possible to do so, slowing down your send rate will help, this will also prevent the Qmail cache from filling up and crawling. Better yet, avoid Sendmail/Qmail altogether.

These are necessary steps,...the real trick to mailing AOL en-mass is to rotate IP addresses within your list and rotate your domain between mailings.

When AOL detects a mailing it begins to grab and hold your Qmail threads. Which will result eventually in bounces, but more trouble-some is that this can make your list virtually stop altogether (this can happen even if you configure Qmail to the max, 250 concurrent remote threads).

This are not suggestions to get away with sending SPAM, unfortunately, in an effort to reduce UCE, ISP's a penalizing legetimate busineses with quality opt-in lists because of the way email is abused.

4crests

7:03 am on Feb 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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whatever the case, I have had no problems recently. I used to have tons of problems.

copongcopong

11:47 pm on Feb 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Have you tried to check out the site:

[postmaster.info.aol.com...]

?