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Drama with my newish tablet that's ruining my life

Bad fan, then a bad bios update, now it's inoperable

         

csdude55

6:28 am on Jan 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I bought this Dell Inspiron 7000 2-in-1 last year. Along with the 4 year extended warranty. Very nice, very excited about the whole thing :-)

I went on a trip over New Years and took the tablet with me. I only needed to use it once, though, so it mostly stayed in my bag.

Then I got home, hooked it all back up, and BRRRRAAAAAHHHHHHH! The fan was super loud, sounding like a drone in my office!

I did the usual steps, turned it off and vacuumed the vents and then used a compressed air can to blow it out and vacuum again. But that didn't help.

With the extended warranty, I went to Dell. The first thing it recommended was running software updates to make sure it's not a software issue. So I checked for updates, and one of them is a BIOS update... scary, but it's from Dell so I trust it. I install it, the computer goes to restart, and... all Hades breaks loose.

First, the fan problem wasn't fixed. But worse, it wouldn't boot Windows at all! I forget exactly what it was doing, but I figured out how to get to Dell Assist (in a DOS emulator kind of area before it boots Windows) and restored to December 16, 2020. Doing that would get it in to Windows, but there was no Start button or clock, and the cursor would run continuously (implying that something was constantly running).

From there I called Dell. The tech remote accessed my computer and went through everything he could think of, but after about 2 hours he gave up. All he could recommend was a fresh Windows install!

So we hung up and I turned off the computer to keep it from running constantly. About 2 hours later I turn it on to try something, and now... it won't boot at all! It goes through the Dell logo, then gives a BSOD and reboots. Over and over and over.

I ordered a Sandisk 256G USB drive so that I could back things up:

[amazon.com...]

It came in today, then I went back to the DOS-ish Dell Assist to run a backup. There's 178.95G of data to back up. The fan is still super loud, but I have it on an external laptop fan so it shouldn't overheat or anything... it's just loud.

As of now it's been running for about 10 hours, and hasn't moved in the last 9 hours! It's copied just under 1G of the 180G and says that there's 117 hours remaining :-O

I can move the mouse around so I don't think that the SSD or CPU are frozen, but I can't get it to scroll through the textarea or anything.

I have a Cancel button, but that scares me. I have no other backups, so if I mess something up then I could potentially lose a LOT of data!

What do you all think? Let it keep running for 5 days and see what happens? Click Cancel and risk corrupting data, then try it again and hope for the best?

Throw the whole dang thing out of a window?

engine

9:13 am on Jan 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear that.
If Dell support can't help, I think you should get a replacement under warranty, and write that off.

To the backup, oh yes, you really need that off the machine.
Leave it running.

Once you have that data, that machine probably has no future, imho.

csdude55

8:23 pm on Jan 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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That's my fear, too :-( I don't think that Dell will hand over a new one effortlessly, though, so I'm probably stuck waiting for more hardware to fry first.

Assuming that I can get this one to work at all.

It's no fun calling, either. I struggle with the Indian accents, but it's even worse when they're on a headset with a ton of background noise and echo!

But anyway.

I let the backup run overnight, and this morning it had an error that the backup "was no available" and to try again later! So I had to wipe the USB drive and start over. We'll see how it goes. When I wiped the USB drive I saw that the backup is a series of "archive.z[0-9]+" files, though, so I have no clue how to restore them if I ever get to that point.

The BSOD specifically says:

Stop code: SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
What failed: clipsp.sys

Any thoughts on that before I do a complete reinstall?

I dread the crap out of trying to reinstall all of the software and then restore their data files... I don't even remember all of the software I've installed, and certainly don't know if restoring data files is going to restore saved data!

csdude55

5:51 am on Jan 21, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Wanted to update you... Dell came through and sent me a free replacement!

This one is actually a like-new refurb, but slightly upgraded from the original (the original had a 500G SSD, this one has a 1TB SSD). It took them about a week to built it, but then they overnighted it via FedEx.

As for the backups, I never was able to get the backup program to work properly. But by some miracle I was able to get in to Windows on the old computer for a short period (sans the Start menu, and most of the Windows files wouldn't open) and manually copy a lot of files over. I have no idea how I actually got it to open, and at some point it froze and wouldn't boot Windows again. So it was really just blind luck that I was able to save anything at all!

Learn from my mistakes, future kiddies reading this... backup, backup, backup!

tangor

7:33 am on Jan 21, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Good news! Meanwhile, do you still have the old drive? If you do, put it in a usb sata docking bay and try accessing the drive that way. Should bypass all the windows clutter as long as the file system (and files!) is not damaged/corrupted. For a $25 part I sure have been happy for all the "saves" I've managed over the years.

csdude55

6:47 pm on Jan 21, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I do still have the old computer, but I have to send it back to Dell within 10 days of delivery of the new. I'm not sure if it's allowed for me to remove the hard drive, but I'll ask. I have cables that would let me connect it as a slave to the new computer if they're OK with me doing it.

This is the type of docking bay you're talking about?

[amazon.com...]

That's pretty cool, I didn't know it existed :-)

This is what I have:

[amazon.com...]

It looks like the cables I have do the same thing, but the docking bay is easier to deal with. Funny enough, they're about the same price! LOL I bought mind almost 10 years ago, though, so I'm going to pretend that the cooler docking bay didn't exist then :-)

tangor

12:26 am on Jan 22, 2022 (gmt 0)

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That's the product ... and yes, what you have should do the same thing. Why I like the former is you can have it as a secondary drive semi permanent while the other is a passel of stuff all over the desk. :)

YMMV

(Note: mine are duals which allow offline cloning, etc)

csdude55

6:37 am on Jan 22, 2022 (gmt 0)

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That really doesn't hurt my feelings at all... I have several old drives just laying around, some have things I wanted to keep and some are just drives that MIGHT have something if I ever get around to looking! LOL A dock that I could just stick it in and find out? Game changer!