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Home defence system.

Anybody got any ideas.

         

requiem

4:46 am on Jun 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am thinking about having a new home defence built. My current system is abit old fashioned and maybe a little to dangerous, it was juryrigged by my father a four years ago,
and consists of a barbwire basement, two trapdoors in the groundfloor, and some indoor electric fences, and one chair with an acid pillow. The system is great last summer an intruder went through one of the trapdoors and probaby got hurt badly, but I guess the time is right for a more hightech solution. Any ideas?

miles

9:17 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"I am looking for a 100% reliable way to ensure that anyone who uninvited enters my home will be seriously damaged, but not killed."

Get a shotgun with #6 shot. Or you could get a dog. I am partial to the moat with aligators, but would settle for a Mod Duce or a Mark 19.

digitalghost

9:21 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Any properly trained dog should darn well do anything the owner says at the drop of a hat

I had exactly the same thought when I read that but I was so intrigued with the thought of someone building a deadly Rube Goldberg house that I let it pass.

We have two mastiffs that are trained guard dogs. There's no need for me to say more than a word or two to them and they obey. I was told that if I told them to sit/stay they would die of starvation before moving from the spot they were in. I don't plan on testing that but I do know that they aren't "pets" when they are on guard and they become perfect pets when they are "at ease".

It sounds like the diamond importer's dogs are poorly trained attack dogs rather than well-trained guard dogs. Guard dogs strive to intimidate first. (prevent entry into the protected territory) If the perimeter is breached they are trained to immobilize and detain.

Personal protection dogs only threaten if the person they are protecting is attacked.

The sight of two 150lb+ mastiffs has proven to deter people that might want to see what I keep in the barn. They haven't kept the neighbor's kid from chucking apples at the horses or tossing his beer cans over the fence but he doesn't step over that fence.

I like the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch idea but the counting is complex... ;)

glengara

9:33 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<whisper> So what's in the barn?</whisper>

Key_Master

9:42 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Pepper spray is for wussies! Get a Giant Mechanical Spider [members.shaw.ca] instead and have some fun with those intruders. ;)

digitalghost

9:43 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<ssshhh>Cars</ssshhh>

I can't keep cars in the stable and the barn already had an engine hoist in it. I'm trying to repopulate the South with street-legal muscle cars that can turn low tens. Low nines cost quite a bit more. ;)

<added>I like LOTS of ponies under the hood</added>

mivox

10:14 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm jealous DG. I just do not have the attention span to have so many active hobbies... Not that I'd necessarily choose muscle cars, but I'll take the stable and the dogs. ;)

But seriously, any dog with a serious voice (as long as it shuts up when told to) should suffice for most intruders... unless -- like the diamond importer -- you've got stuff in your house likely to attract determined people with guns.

In that case I like the idea of having some kind of security system whereby an infrared trigger would somehow activate a system of hidden, motion-triggered stun guns... if you set the sensors/stun guns at the right height, you could theoretically set them up to only zap adult-human-height targets.

Just make sure all the hallways & doorways are really thoroughly covered... no need to blanket the place. hehehehe *ZAP*

digitalghost

10:30 pm on Jun 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>attention span

ROFL Neither do I, that's why I have to have so many things to do. I only sleep about 2-4 hours a day and I need to switch tasks frequently. (that's why I can't work for someone else, there's no way I could stay cooped up in an office for an 8 hour stretch, let alone do the same thing 5 days in a row.)

requiem

3:12 am on Jun 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just gotta' ask: Is s/he still there? If so, being fed and watered daily?

It is possible to escape the basement. He/she just had to crawl trough brabwire and broken glas. All we found was pices of clothing, hair and blood.

requiem

3:17 am on Jun 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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(please ignore)

[edited by: requiem at 4:57 am (utc) on June 14, 2003]

requiem

3:18 am on Jun 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Are you actually serious, or is this a foo funnin Friday?

Dead serious.

requiem

3:21 am on Jun 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Get a shotgun with #6 shot. Or you could get a dog. I am partial to the moat with aligators, but would settle for a Mod Duce or a Mark 19.

Gun laws. I hate them. The police just collected my guns.

[edit reason: removed specifics]

[edited by: requiem at 4:58 am (utc) on June 14, 2003]

requiem

3:23 am on Jun 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Pepper spray is for wussies! Get a Giant Mechanical Spider instead and have some fun with those intruders. ;)

I wanted to get CS, but it has become illegal.

requiem

3:26 am on Jun 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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you've got stuff in your house likely to attract determined people with guns.

Computers and gizmos. Anyway all criminals have guns, I just have to settle for bodyarmor, peppergas, gasmask and a semi-safe master bedrom.

mivox

7:55 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, I'm glad I don't live in your neighborhood. I don't even have to worry about taking my keys out of the car, computers in the house or not...

requiem

8:10 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't even have to worry about taking my keys out of the car

What about your car insurance? Will the company pay up, if
you don't keep your car locked?

There is an nice Soth-African caralarm. I couln't find it on the net but it has two built in flamethrowers (not a joke). I really, really would like one of those, but I guess South-Africa must be the only country in the world where it is legal...

mivox

9:27 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Don't know about the insurance, but there are really only three roads leading out of the area... One of them leads to the US/Canadian border. One of them leads to Anchorage, Alaska (which is essentially a dead end... try getting a stolen vehicle loaded onto a ferry), and one of them leads to Prudhoe Bay oil fields. The rest of the roads lead to the middle of nowhere very quickly.

The recovery rate on reported stolen vehicles is very high. ;)

miles

4:18 pm on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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requiem where are you located. If you dont want to post it sticky it to me.

Mike12345

4:33 pm on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you are a UK resident then see Tony Martin [news.google.com]

If you are a US resident you could probably buy your way out of killing some one. See OJ [google.com]

richardb

7:16 pm on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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God Mike12345

I'd forgotten about Tony Martin, poor bloke all he did was to pop a no good sh1t for brains burglar -- like most people in the UK would like to do if they had any guts and the poor guy gets the slammer. I cannot believe the rest of the cr1p, it's the PC movement gone mad.

I think we should back requiem, club together and get some serious deterrents let's nuke the ******'s

Damn that would be some serious stress busting.

Someone show me a club I can join

Rich

mivox

7:38 pm on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, US prisons call a certain groups of inmates "The Lifers' Club"... hehehe.

werty

12:07 am on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here is the flamethrower "car alarm"
[cnn.com...]

I remember seeing this on the news a while back.

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