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A patron's guide

         

Robino

9:07 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

martinibuster

9:25 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Simply put, customers who tip get better service.

This holds true in bars that have a regular clientele. The dark bars where the drunks hang out. Making friends with your bartender gets you comps, a steady supply, huge pours, and afterhour privileges.

But there are many other bars that are weekend destinations and seem to hire bar tenders based on looks than for any bar tending abilities. Believe it or not, I've had bartenders ask me how to make a Martini. That's the main reason for slow bar service in the first place: Inept bar tenders. Leaving a big tip in these kinds of joints usually won't matter.

And forget getting a decent cocktail in New Mexico.

SlyGuy

9:48 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I bartended for about 8 years. Everywhere from local pubs to night clubs. Crazy lifestyle.

If you really want prompt service, stick to these guidelines:

- Tip. No bartender enjoys working for $5.00 an hour.

- Say please. request a drink, don't demand one.

- Say thank you. Common sense and something that is not said enough anymore.

- Have your money ready. It astonds me that people can walk up to a busy bar, order a drink, watch the bartender make it...and then root around in their pockets for 5 minutes trying to find change.

- Never..ever..order a drink just to impress the bartender. I wish I had a dollar for every idiot who would walk up to the bar and order a "slammin-piledriver-brain-wizzbang" or some other idiotic drink that they concocted in their basement last week. The best is when they give you that 'what?!, you don't know how to make that?' look..

You meet a lot of great people bartending, a lot of morons too. I like my new career much, much better.

:)

- Chad

ScottM

10:23 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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- Have your money ready. It astonds me that people can walk up to a busy bar, order a drink, watch the bartender make it...and then root around in their pockets for 5 minutes trying to find change.

Unless of course, it is a $13.00 drink and you are thinking 5 or 6 bucks...:>)

(PubCon joke)

SinclairUser

11:28 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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SlyGuy,

I like your thoughts on Bartender Optimization.

Nice site too... may I say!

nipear

4:40 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One of my best friends has been a bartender since college. His main gig was working a high volume club - low tips. But he made all his money working at a local/college dive. He'd make 30-40% of his sales. Meaning - He'd sale $1200 in a night and take home $400. Not too bad for a nights work, and free drinks on top of that....

He's in real estate now but still works 1 or 2 shifts a week for fun, the cash, and mostly the contacts. I can't belive how many people will let their bartender sell their house.

But then again they get free drinks for a while.... :)

I've been contempating hitting up the RE market. How hard can it be to SEO my way to the top, pick up easy clients and take my 3-6% of $300,000.. :) Those overpaid bastards..

Mike12345

9:10 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Bartender Optimization" - I like that and its abbrev. is BO which is what most bartenders in York have! (note: very generalised comment) - I couldtn resist the temptation for a childish comment.

Sorry

ncsuk

9:40 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Never been to NY but I would imagine you are right, damn greasy Americans :P

Mike12345

10:26 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ncsuk, i was actually referring to the York in England. Its only 2/3 hours (plus delays and train strikes) away from london, you should get up here and smell it for yourself. lol!

SinclairUser

12:23 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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LOL - Smelly OLD York not New York.

At least you can get a decent drink and a friendly atmosphere in US Bars. UK pubs are full of beered up kids with an agression problem.

Mike12345

12:35 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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SinclairUser - Right on. But can you have the satisfaction of slapping those beered up kiddies round the chops, when they are acting like prats, without being arrested in america? The local police round here view it as a favour. :) lol!

I have to say "beered up kids with an agression problem."
is the best summary of british nightlife ive ever heard. Well done, again. :)

SinclairUser

12:46 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for the compliments...

Being British I am ashamed of what we call the next generation. All the crap taked about in the papers about America this, America that. The US has good stuff like Garth Brooks, Honkey Tonks, Pick-up trucks, Cowboy Hats and sunshine.

I read in the Sunday times that UK streets are now more dangerous than those in the US...

Anyhow, I am getting off topic - LOL!