Best Playstation 2 Soccer game?

and shoot-em-up?

[glengara]

Contemplating a Playstation2 for our teenager, any views on the best games in those categories?

[jatar_k]

fifa 2003 from EA is amazing, don't know the shooting game options very well

[JonnyWales]

... just purchased Unreal Tournament 2003. Great reviews; however it looks like I'm going to have to seriously upgrade my PC in order to be able to play it :(

[Craig_F]

I have ps2 and xbox, and since xbox live came out I haven't touched the ps2 once. I think it's going on ebay next week.

[glengara]

Glad to hear that jatar_K as that's the one we chose!
Games prices here are horendous, I take it there's no compatability problems with games bought from the US?

[georgeek]

Almost everyone who has played the top three soccer games for the PS2 will tell you that 'Pro Evolution Soccer' is the best. It has a steep learning curve so you will have to practise a lot when your teenager is at school.

'Timesplitters 2' is a great shooter with a vast variety of weapons ranging from Tommy Gun to flame thrower. But be prepared to learn how to decapitate waves of zombies using your bare fist as well!