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CERTs might be good to impress a HR robot, but aside of that, honestly, you smell who knows his/her stuff and who doesn't in a few seconds.
CERTs might be good to impress a HR robot, but aside of that, honestly, you smell who knows his/her stuff and who doesn't in a few seconds.
Thats So So So True...
CERTs might be good to impress a HR robot, but aside of that, honestly, you smell who knows his/her stuff and who doesn't in a few seconds.
It take me about three days to catch on, if recent experience is a guide.
proof that certs mean little to nothing in reality ?
I think it's proof that MS certs are worthless - an 8 year old kid can pass. Even if it is a particularly gifted 8 year old kid.
i got burned on my mcsa years ago... spent a ton of money to do a 9 month cert class...
(so yes i know my stuff...you can sniff me if you need to!)
but it was worthless...
yep... got me to the HR interview, my director now doesnt even care about it...
what got me my job was my ability to handle tense situations between two different departments...
my mcsa had nothing to do with it...
Thanks Federal Government for lending me all of that money i cant pay back...!
Keep calling... i wont answer!
Better then slapping a blank resume down.
I mean this is no different then a 13 year old kid graduating college. Does that mean college is worthless and people should stop attending?
[edited by: J_RaD at 6:33 pm (utc) on Jan. 28, 2009]
i realized AFTER i took my exams that there were all of those "virtual" tests... which were basically an exact copy of the online exams...
in pdf format you could download from pirate sites...
study one of those and you are as good as gold....
they have been corrupted.
Fortunately... my exams were free.... if anyone is a Veteran out there... any type of certification exam is free... you pay to take it... PASS or FAIL, send in the results with the receipt and they refund your money...
GREAT deal for veterans... almost any exam you can think of.
i took my MCSA that way and my CIW Master Designer that way... Go Navy!
The material is actually good and if you really study and pass based on knowledge you are at a good starting point for taking it to the real world.
the real world is where you become the professional.
Does that mean college is worthless and people should stop attending?
It means less to me as an employer, yes. It used to show an ability to learn, which was something, but when it gets dumbed down to a point where anyone can get one, I start to look at other qualities which indicate a person has what I'm after.
A college degree is already no longer enough, for me. In fact I can honestly say a college degree (University degree in the UK) makes absolutely no difference to me whatsoever anymore.
so is actually administering a network with active directory, setting up domains, actually creating user and group accounts... getting domain permission in place...
luckily i had that opportunity in a real live environment... which sounded better than just saying i have the certification...
being able to actually walk up to a machine and explain and show that process to an employer makes a world of difference...
and being confident in how you do it....
Whatever the case, the kid probably needs to get out more!
