Famous people's IQ's

[Crush]

http://www.aceviper.net/aceviper_net/ace_intelligence/aceviper_famous_people_iq_list/aceviper_famous_people_iq_list.html

[edited by: engine at 7:03 pm (utc) on Feb. 20, 2007]
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[hannamyluv]

They left off Geena Davis. IQ of 140 and a Mesna Member. I think she talked about that on Letterman or Leno awhile back.

*blush* nope, found her. I just can't spell. ;)

[Demaestro]

It says "estimated IQ"

How the heck would you go about estimate something like that? I heard once Jessica Simpson had a really high IQ, that is when I decided that IQs really don't mean anything.

All the really smart Mensa members I have had contact with all have the same problem when dealing with problem solving or trouble shooting.

They arrive at the correct answer early in their equations, but then keep analyzing and reanalyzing the problem, putting the correct answer down and questioning if it is correct or not. Usually resulting in some uber clever method of doing something that doesn't work as it is too complicated or drawn out, when the origianl answer they arrived at quickly was all that was needed.

They end up outsmarting themselves 8 times out of 10.

[edited by: Demaestro at 5:27 pm (utc) on Sep. 1, 2006]

[bird]

There's no way to "estimate" the IQ of a person.

Either they have made a test or they haven't. In the first case you know the IQ, in the second you don't. Any "estimation" is just a wild guess, and has the same significance as any other random number.

[buckworks]

My theory is that people should be able to recognize that you're likely Mensa-level material without you needing to tell them.

[lawman]

Isn't Mensa like the kindergarten of brain clubs?

[digitalghost]

Mensa - disparagingly known as 'the table of sciolists'.

[hannamyluv]

I always find it kind of funny in this society that we disparage intelligence.

We worship the ground that mega-athletes walk on and track with fevered intensity the "clubs" they join to prove it.

We follow the lives of those who are beautiful like our own lives depended on it and shell out literally billions of dollars a year to see them projected on screens both big and small.

But god forbid that anyone "admit" they are smart rather than strong or pretty.

[digitalghost]

I don't think anyone thinks less of anyone that is intelligent. Qualifying for Mensa is one thing, joining is another. ;)

No one likes a thrasonical egghead.

[oneguy]

There's no way to "estimate" the IQ of a person.
Either they have made a test or they haven't. In the first case you know the IQ, in the second you don't. Any "estimation" is just a wild guess, and has the same significance as any other random number.

I'm not too sure about that.

I've estimated my own IQ at 220. Not only am I smart enough to estimate my own IQ, but now that it's been estimated, I also have the credentials to tell you that an IQ can be estimated.

[hannamyluv]

No one likes a thrasonical egghead.

But that's really my point.

We have no problem with someone saying "Hey, I am good at basketball because I am strong so I am going to try out for the basketball team".

We have no problem with someone saying, "I am pretty so I am going to Hollywood to become an actor or model."

But when someone says "I am smart and I am going to join a group of other smart people", we get all up in arms about it.

It is a measurable quality. It's not like you make it up. Why are people so ashamed of it?

[digitalghost]

When I was young I was often told, 'don't brag, just do'. I'm sure many children have been given the same advice. Dad's philosophy extended to sports, academics, work, life in general. His advice to his grandsons is pretty much the same, be like Walter Payton, not Jose Canseco. I still don't like to see sports stars bragging about their accomplishments.

Intelligence is one human quality. According to that list, Hitler and Napolean would have qualified for Mensa. Lincoln, Washington and Jefferson would have been denied entry...

[hannamyluv]

And none of them could join the NBA. Your point is...?

People are not the same but people like hanging out with people who are similar. Why bring down people who do so on one measure but not another?

Belonging to a club does not dictate greatness. High IQ, great strength or fine beauty never garunteed success, so why are we offended that great people are left from one list but not another?

[buckworks]

The standard IQ test measures a few limited facets of the overall quality that could be called "intelligence", and does so very imperfectly at that.

It does not reflect either a person's interests or anything they've actually accomplished. So it's a pretty feeble measure of whether you're in fact joining a club of people who are "similar".

[edited by: buckworks at 8:56 pm (utc) on Sep. 1, 2006]

[digitalghost]

First, I'm not 'bringing anyone down'. If someone wants to join Mensa, fantastic. They can carry the card in their wallet or purse and join in the discussion groups.

What I'm saying is that maybe those sports heroes should exercise a little humility, much like Walter Payton did. He was the guy that had this to say about endzone celebrations-

“when you score, act like you've been there before!”

Besides, it's not about intelligence, but the application of that intelligence. Now, care to discuss the limitations and biases of I.Q. tests?

[bcolflesh]

I can actually taste the sour grapes on this thread.

[lawman]

I admit, I is smart.

[hannamyluv]

much like Walter Payton did

He still joined. He never denied he joined. He never hid that he joined. And no one ever said "You suck because you joined".

Yes, strutting around saying "I am so great b/c I am part of this group" no matter what this is comes across as crass, but simply being a part or admitting you belong is not shameful, yet when it comes to intelligence, we make people feel that it is.

So it's a pretty feeble measure of whether you're in fact joining a club of people who are "similar".

Some basketball players are better at playing center or making 3-point shots. There are sub cultures and groups to any club.

IQ is a general common identifyer that then gets broken down into further groups within the club. And Mensa, Hollywood, or profesional sports all have those sub-cultures as well. It is a starting point to find those people we have things in common with.

[Webwork]

Yeah, well I'm smart enough not to get drawn into a debate about intelligence.

I'll just sit on the sidelines and do this: :-P

[akmac]

I was heavily recruited by mensa coming out of high school, but I blew out my cerebellum during training camp.

[Leosghost]

;-) (6aR,9R)-N,N-Diethyl-7-methyl-4,6,6a,7,8,9-
hexahydroindolo-[4,3-fg]quinoline-9-carboxamide..without which mensa IQ is boring ..and as relevant to anything as trainspotting is to cows ..

and yeah ..trainspotting is one word ..actually half of one word ..the other half being anorak ..no hyphen ..or "interveiwedontvsportspersonalitywhohasalowerlevelintellectthanmypetdogandwhosopinionsandconversationsarelessinterestingthanhers

[edited by: Leosghost at 10:24 pm (utc) on Sep. 1, 2006]

[walkman]

well, IQ estimation is the only thing left for people at my caliber. There's no one smart enough to devise the test for us ;)

[akmac]

"There's no one smart enough to devise the test for us ;) "

How about a tape measure?

;-)

[hannamyluv]

I was heavily recruited by mensa coming out of high school

So maybe mensa doesn't recruit (which is understandable because when was the last time you paid $60 to watch someone debate an issue or figure out a math problem), but I hear G has been making some recruiting efforts based on using one's IQ. Wasn't that one of their ads for applying along those lines? I can't find it now, but I remember something like that - "High IQ? - Come work for us."

[Leosghost]

they had a billboard alongside of the highway ..you had to work out who got the biggest bed ..and why ..how to clear the dupes out of supplemental index wasnt considered as important at the time ..

[tedster]

So Steven Hawking and Albert Einstein are both 160, but Lebniz was a 205? Oh well, at least Andy Warhol was an 86.

[Jane_Doe]

I just want to be smart enough to understand the search engine alogrithms.

[walkman]

>> So Steven Hawking and Albert Einstein are both 160, but Lebniz was a 205?

I don't think raw IQ in itself means much, unless you use it for important things. Eisntein would have been just as smart in the test had he decided to chill and take up gardening. Sure he could've been the greatest garderner ever lived, but I doubt we would know his name.

[httpwebwitch]

There's no way to "estimate" the IQ of a person.

well actually an IQ score is itself an "estimate", isn't it? So are these estimates of estimates?

[vik_c]

So George Bush (125) is smarter than George Washington (118) was.