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The FIFA World Cup: Which country will win & who will be the star? 3

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mack

8:58 pm on Jul 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Continued from [webmasterworld.com...]

well done France!

Final... France V Italy.

Should be good.

Mack.

[edited by: engine at 1:24 pm (utc) on July 6, 2006]

Patrick Taylor

11:16 pm on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Scolari is from Brazil, not Portugal. Apparently, the British really like Portugal.

Nybo

5:10 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why is it that I am constantly reminded of the fact that English football fans are easily the most unpopular in Europe?

BeeDeeDubbleU

7:40 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Funny, you UK guys cannot get over losing to Portugal twice in the semi-finals of a real competition, can you?

PLEEEEASE! Not UK! ENGLAND.

We Scot's, Welsh and Irish do not like to be called English. We have our own identities. It's a bit like calling a Portuguese Spanish or a Canadian a Yank.

Why is it that I am constantly reminded of the fact that English football fans are easily the most unpopular in Europe?

You see ... Nybo knows the difference :)

defanjos

7:47 am on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PLEEEEASE! Not UK! ENGLAND.

Sorry, my bad.

mack

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Glad we got that sorted out :)

Mack.

Rugles

3:56 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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re: the title of the thread

France...... Zidane

nuff said.

<ok not enough.... can't wait for the game... it looks excellent in HD!>

BeeDeeDubbleU

5:38 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Italy - Gattuso ;)

Draconian

6:22 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It does flow but it stops for a free kick or a penalty and replays could be organised while the players are still protesting to the ref.

Those are few and far between. What if the dive takes place and the opposing side gets a good rush happening. Impede game progress because some #*$! is pouting 50 yards back? Also, incase some of you forget, there are plenty of arguments whenever a card is issued. If you throw out a player due to diving, be prepared to watch a circus as both teams scramble around the ref and debate/ also get the boot.

Funny, you UK guys cannot get over losing to Portugal twice in the semi-finals of a real competition, can you?

PLEEEEASE! Not UK! ENGLAND.

We Scot's, Welsh and Irish do not like to be called English. We have our own identities. It's a bit like calling a Portuguese Spanish or a Canadian a Yank.

Or an Australian a Kiwi! XD

PS - I don't know if everyone was sleeping when Italy played Germany but the German team definetely dominated and there were Italians diving left right and center. Go France (The lesser of two evils)

Draconian

6:26 pm on Jul 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Btw, greatest match in the tourny will be Germany vs. Portugal. Mark my words. (Germany definetely won't settle for fourth place and Portugal plays well under pressure).

BeeDeeDubbleU

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Or an Australian a Kiwi!

Or a Kiwi an Australian! ;)

RonPK

9:29 pm on Jul 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In terms of drama, Zidane definitely was the star. Zidane brought France to the final. Zidane heads France out of the final. What a terrible way to end a career.

Congrats to Italy!

moltar

9:31 pm on Jul 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What the hell happened to Zidane? Did Materazzi say something about his mother?

rkhare

9:45 pm on Jul 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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or offered big money to move out of penalty corner, u nknow euoropean match fixers.

Patrick Taylor

9:59 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, Italy won but they are not the stars of the tournament. If there was one, they were knocked out in previous rounds.

In other sports (such as the finals at Wimbledon, coinciding with the 2 closing World Cup matches) you can witness true sportsmanship - real respect between the contestants, and handshakes afterwards. None of that last night in Berlin.

Reading press comment about Zidane's sending off, it's clear that tactical verbal and physical abuse between opposing players (Zidane apparently had his nipple pinched in the run-up to his head butt, and may well have been goaded by insults throughout the match) has become commonplace in the international game. Interestingly, it also seems the referee's red card decision was "illegal" because it was based on hearsay video evidence.

Receptional Andy

10:03 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



The red card wasn't 'illegal' since part of the role of the 'fourth official' it advise the ref of any violent conduct:

"[The fourth official] has also been authorised to immediately inform the match official when violent conduct occurs out of the view of the referee and assistant referees."
FIFA.com [fifa.com]

Seems pretty clear cut to me!

limbo

10:52 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Shocking move from Zidane - what and end to his (amazing) career.

I have never seen such a well delivered head butt to the chest. Not something football needs.

On this, and all the other evidence/decisions of the competition, I will find it hard to see how FIFA will not introduce a form of tele-reffing into the next competition.

It's been a great festival of football marred by a number of terrible decisions and incidents - Rooney, Ronaldo, Maniche, Zidane, Figo, Rossi.. all of them should be ashamed.

Patrick Taylor

10:58 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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According to the BBC website:

(1) "Fifa said although the fifth official does have a TV monitor, he is not permitted to intervene and the fourth official has no access to video replays."

(2) "Elizondo was advised by his fourth official but France coach Raymond Domenech alleged he had only acted after seeing a video replay."

Both coaches seem to be saying the video evidence was used. Video evidence seen by the fourth official, or anything based on the video, would make the sending off illegal.

[edited by: Patrick_Taylor at 11:05 am (utc) on July 10, 2006]

Receptional Andy

11:05 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



The thing is, we have no idea either way. And neither does Domenech - he just seems to be suffering from a severe case of sour grapes, especially as he's also (inexplicably) defending Zidane's headbutt. ;)

Patrick Taylor

11:34 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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True, we don't know the whole story, but if Zidane hadn't been provoked into headbutting Materazzi and France had gone on to win with a spectacular goal from Zizou, then France might have been the star of the tournament. And Zidane still won the Golden Ball award for the World Cup's best player.

Whilst it was right to send him off, the fact that this might have been an "illegal" decision actually points the way forward for FIFA.

[edited by: Patrick_Taylor at 11:35 am (utc) on July 10, 2006]

Visit Thailand

11:40 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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France coach Raymond Domenech alleged

Each of these words are very important.

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