IE is a steaming pile of bit-bucket dregs

I've been working on that all morning...

[zCat]

I thought I was familiar with its little CSS idiosyncracies, but my new design which works fine on every other browser under the sun produced a whole load of new exceptions for my "ie-workarounds.css" file.

Grr. Anyway, IE users coming to that site are now getting an AdSense Firefox button, on the basis that every potential convertee helps reduce a little webmaster misery.

[trillianjedi]

IE users coming to that site are now getting an AdSense Firefox button

I've been doing that too ;)

That said, the vast majority of my sites users are on IE, as I suspect with most sites.

I think the best design philosophy, if the bulk of your users are on IE, is to build it for IE, then "fix" it in FF, Opera etc.

TJ

[zCat]

I think the best design philosophy, if the bulk of your users are on IE, is to build it for IE, then "fix" it in FF, Opera etc.

I usually develop in Mozilla / Firefox, which enables reasonably standards-based code, which then works without usually no modification on Opera, Safari and Konqueror; and incrementally test on IE and make exceptions as necessary. This time I'm away from home and didn't have regular access to a Windows installation, thinking I knew most of the pitfalls. When I finally did manage to test it: whoops.

Anyway, the layout change is proving beneficial; I think I'll have to acquire one of those new Intel-based MacBooks (I'm still on G4) and install XP for testing purposes.

[JAB Creations]

Safari doesn't except clientside created cookies, making it barely above the junk status of IE6.

Konquere qhich shares the same rendering engine however does not share its inability to do the job correctly though Konquerer's gui is as bad as IE7 is.

[Hester]

Safari doesn't accept clientside created cookies.

Surely not...?

Konquerer's gui is as bad as IE7 is.

Nothing can be as bad as IE7's awful gui. I've seen screenshots of Konqueror and it looks okay? With IE7 Microsoft have thrown everything around (sorry, I meant 'followed extensive user testing to improve the usability') leaving a right mess (sorry, I meant 'an exciting new look'). Everyone's bound to love it thought the designers, but I think it truly sucks. Give me the IE6 look instead anyday. You can't even move the icons around! I will stick to Opera.