Lycos.de partners with Allesklar.de

Germany: AllesKlar.de worth the money?

[sudden]

I was wondering how much traffic allesklar.de really has. It claims to have results on Lycos.de, but I canīt see them, at least not in the "search"-results. Is it worth the money anyway, for a broad topic?

[Rumbas]

Worth the money imo. Remember Allesklar gets you into MSN.de!

More on the topic.. [webmasterworld.com]

[heini]

Sudden, you are aware you just dropped a bomb on me? :)

Folks, Lycos.de has dropped their own directory submission services and partners with Allesklar.de now!

Allesklar raises prices, 199 Euro until end of September, who knows how much afterwards.

That makes Allesklar the undisputed king of directories in Germany (apart from ODP of course).

Big news, thanks Sudden. And yes, it's worth the money.

[heini]

On further research:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Allesklar has lost MSN.de apparently. Results will still be in meinestadt.msn.de though...

Now that reduces the value of an Allesklar.de listing considerably.

[Rumbas]

>Now that reduces the value of an Allesklar.de listing considerably

Couldn't agree more. The kicker for me was without doubt the MSN relationship. No wonder I couldn't find the place where they mention MSN on Allesklar. Only that meinestadt.msn.de thingy :(

[tschild]

A small local party site that I run is listed in allesklar.de (got in when it was still free submission for an entry with full title/desc). It is also listed in dmoz.org but uses no paid listings or PPC listings.

Total visits in June 2003: 1.508

Summary of referrer statistics for June 2003
(hits from non-search-engine links excluded, there are a lot of them from the sites of higher partly levels)

435 from Google
33 from msn.de
12 from caloweb.de
8 from t-online (search results from FAST/Overture)
6 from MetaGer
4 from dmoz.org
3 from lycos.de
all others less than 3

Breakdown of Google:
353 from google.de
16 from google.com
13 from 216.239.33.100
13 from google.at
9 from images.google.de
8 from de.search.yahoo.com (search results by Google)
7 from search.yahoo.com (search results by Google)
4 from google.ch

Breakdown of msn.de
19 from spresults.aspx
11 from results.aspx
3 from dnserror.aspx

[sudden]

Checking a few backlinks, it seems the links from allesklar.de are counted by Google. The links are implemented as redirects, so I thought Google might miss them, but this doesnīt seem to be the case. So allesklar.de should pass PR, right? And quite a lot, it seems. From this point of view, it might be worth the money.

Or am I missing something?