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We rarely get orders for more than 1 widget unless its from a merchant because its some thing that end users usually never need 2.
Shipping Address is same as billing address on world pay...and the country is Nigeria. (First time for us)
World pay says "Warning" against both.
To ship or not to ship .. is the question...what are the things I need to look for / do.
I received a very attractive business proposition fom a former finance minister of Nigeria
Is he still alive? His widow keeps asking me for help in getting $30 million he squirreled away in a Swiss bank account. If she's lying about being a widow, do you think I can believe her about the money?
;)
On a side note we had a couple Nigerian students work for us a couple years ago. I heard some pretty crazy stuff from those guys.
As I recall, my former finance minister was living in exile.
Maybe the lady just assumes he's dead.
Maybe we should try to instigate an emotional reunion.
Isn't the internet wonderful!
Is he still alive? His widow keeps asking me for help in getting $30 million he squirreled away in a Swiss bank account.
Or was it that all three are dead (killed instantly when a stunt bicycle display went tragically wrong) on the day they won the state lottery, and I've been traced as the only acceptable foreigner as recipient of $40 million?
Whatever, it feels good to be able to help dead people and grow rich at the same time.
Country not match, Warning from WorldPay, unusual & repeated order, Yahoo (or Hotmail) email address.
If you process this order - YOU WILL LOSE THE MONEY, THE ADMIN FEE AND HOURS OF TIME.
Move on, spend time getting orders that you have more confidence in.
Many merchants (including myself) block lots of orders (WorldPay state 1.2% of their transactions are fraud attempts), but you get genuine orders in the crossfire. But then you are in business to protect yourself, to pay yourself. You can't do that if you ship highly suspicious goods. Don't make the same mistake I did, it took 12 months to recover without any wages because of the high cost (and that was before WorldPays chargeback admin fee).
I recently had a buyer from eastern Europe (a country known for high fraud) send payment through BidPay.com, an issuing agent for Western Union. They take the risk of verifying and accepting credit card payments for a $5 fee. If you explain your terms, you weed out the fraudulent (or non-serious) buyers. You are supposed to use it for eBay auctions only, but the buyer can put any closed eBay auction number and BidPay.com will approve the transaction.
I've heard wired transfers are another way of securing funds, but they run $15 in the USA. Int'l transactions may cost more?
gsx, you're damn right i agree with you :)
jaski, don't waste your time on this one, it's a classic fraud.
>>AVS results:
>>security code comparison - 0 (not supported)
>>postcode comparison - 1 (not checked)
>>address comparison - 1 (not checked)
>>card issue country/contact country comparison - 4 (not
>>matched)
>>The only thing that seems positive to me about this order
>>is that shipping and billing addresses given by him are
>>same .. I am not sure if that has much significance
>>though.
what they've done is very simple - they've typed in a card number and it's been accepted as a valid card number. (it's easy to find valid card numbers with trial and error or by downloading simple card number generator scripts).
the card issue country in this case is NOT nigeria - the AVS results show 4 which means the card was not issued in nigeria or to anyone in nigeria. that means the card number belongs to someone else in another country.
cancel the order, forget it, move on. don't even bother emailing the nigerians to explain anything or ask for verification or whatever - it's not worth your time and effort.
>>(gsx)If you process this order - YOU WILL LOSE THE MONEY,
>>THE ADMIN FEE AND HOURS OF TIME.
exactly.
jaski, my business is e-commerce. i'm an accredited partner of worldpay, i set up and/or manage e-commerce sites using worldpay and other providers. i've seen hundreds, maybe thousands of similar transactions processed through client sites over the last 3 or 4 years. not a single order from nigeria (or indonesia) has been genuine.
some quick advice - use worldalert to block all IPs from nigeria and indonesia. you can get indonesian IP list from merchant911.org - join merchant911.org as well. read worldpay's chargeback guide and read through their online support pages to find more advice about fraud checking and the top 12 fraud countries etc. read back through old threads right here to learn more about fraud prevention.
Once again. Thank you so much.
Jaski
