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Is my merchant overcharging me?

         

timmus

2:33 am on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have been with Cardservice International since Feb 1997, selling books and software via the Internet. I do all transactions by hand with a pinpad terminal (I like it that way). I get charged about $40-80 per month for the merchant bank account, plus they take 4.7% of all transactions.

I feel like I'm paying a slightly steep rate. Is this rate the norm for online merchants? Should I be looking elsewhere? Each year I process in the five figure range and have about maybe one chargeback (my dispute is always ignored since I never have the signature... I mean come on, I'm an Internet merchant).

Also are credit checks the norm to get new merchant accounts? My credit is not good right now due to some medical bills a couple of years ago.

Miklo

10:23 am on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Depends on your location and what kind of an account you have. If you have a direct merchant account, your rates should be much lower, even if you are an Internet merchant. I believe the standard rate for merchant accounts in the U.S. is between 2.1%-2.4% per transaction + per transaction fee. Third party processing accounts are usually between 4-6% + 0.35 USD per transaction.

I would first contact Cardservice to see if you can get a lower rate. You could also try to shop around for other merchant accounts, as there seem to be hundreds of possibilities, but I don't know if your credit history will be reviewed. Some processors claim that they don't look at this.

RailMan

10:36 am on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>I feel like I'm paying a slightly steep rate. Is this
>rate the norm for online merchants? Should I be
>looking elsewhere? ..... (my dispute is always
>ignored since I never have the signature... I mean
>come on, I'm an Internet merchant).

your disputes are worthless if you process manually for internet payments - you can get an automated solution with 3D secure / AVS / CVV for a lot less - this will save you time, money, and will be more secure, and you get protection from some chargebacks

is your merchant provider screwing you?
no - you have a choice - it's up to you to use it ......

Corey Bryant

2:30 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You should switch to an internet account using their gateway. Procesing them the way you are doing is what is costing you so much money. Contact your agent to see if you can switch.

-Corey

timmus

2:34 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What are some recommended processors to look at that can do the gateway/merchant account/processing? I did search through previous messages but I could only find suggestions for non-U.S. people with businesses.

Dogza

8:02 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yikes! Yes you are getting screwed. We process orders the exact same way and we use Card Service Int. also.

Ask Card Service if they can set up your account as a "Phone Order" account instead of an "Internet" account. Big difference in rate.

Credit checks are normal, so bad credit may make it hard to switch.

And by the way, as long as you require and signiture on your deliveries, you'll win your chargeback disputes.

Automan Empire

8:14 pm on Oct 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, my B&M store is with Cardservice Intl, and we were offered a way lower rate even for card-not-present transactions.

Some things I've learned since signing on their dotted line:
Rates and fees are NEGOTIABLE. Know what the competition is offering for apples-apples plans, this is your best bet. Don't necessarily accept the first offer they put on the table.

You don't have to buy a terminal from them- wish I had gotten a used one; I chose the faustian bargain of paying $2,400 over four years of "easy" payments because I thought my only other choice was their outright purchase for about $900.

They seem like an okay-enough company, and my B&M business still uses them, but I found a better deal for my ecommerce site through authorize.net.
-Automan

timmus

4:21 am on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, I got soaked for the pinpad lease, too, but then again that was 1997 and there was an absolute vacuum of advice and information online.

Tim

Corey Bryant

2:07 pm on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It is not actually CSI that is over-charging you, but it was your agent. The agent gets a percentage of that sale. So if he can get you at 2.5% - that is much more money in his pocket.

CSI did tighten the leash on most of its agents fortunately and you would be hard pressed to find any now that actually change an application fee of over $1,000. Some used to charge that as well, yes.

If you still have a relationship with your agent and if he is still in business, pick up the phone and call him. More than likely he would rather try to get your rates reduced than to lose your account altogether. Most CSI agents now are setting up online accounts at about 2.19%

-Corey

fiu88

5:15 am on Oct 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You'e being overcharged...big time...talk to corey, or anyone other than your current agent