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Free Shipping in an Era of Rising Shipping Costs

... you do free shipping... UPS doesn't!

         

jsinger

2:13 pm on Mar 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

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We've offered flat rate shipping for a decade... actually two tiers, then free over about $100 like many web sellers. Our products lend themselves to that scheme because they weigh roughly the same per dollar. We don't sell feather pillows and barbell sets.

We get many telephone orders and it's easy to say "shipping is a flat $9." That worked great years ago... even made a buck or two on average on each shipment. (sigh, yearning for 2002 again!)

I believe that web sellers should always strive for simplicity. Flat rate shipping is simple. But I also believe in turning a profit.

The landscape is changing as carrier rates rise and the expected free shipping level is fairly fixed around $100. Free shipping is starting to strangle us, even in an era of near-zero inflation.

A few competitors are going to "free with $129" or the like, and those tend to use a lot of coupon promotions.

Does this worry you? What are you doing to pass rising shipping costs (up about 5% this year) to the buyer?

J_RaD

2:29 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)



they why doesn't said customer just go to zappos?

pageoneresults

2:43 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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As often as not, it's cheaper to buy an item and pay shipping from one source than to buy the same item with free shipping from another source.


Funny how that works eh? ;)

How does most Free Shipping work? You calculate the cost from your zone to the furthest zone, correct? I've found that method to be full of holes especially if the majority of your business is only one or two zones away and not five or six as originally calculated.

That's great for you the Merchant as you are most likely making a profit on shipping. In my mind, shipping should be a 1:1 cost to the client, no markup involved, it's already expensive as it is.

Then you get the Shipping and Handling method. Take your maximum cost from one zone to the furthest, then add another $5.00 or $10.00 to cover Handling. Of course these costs show as Shipping and Handling on your invoice.

I don't know about you, but for the majority of my clients, Free Shipping just chews into already rock bottom profits due to the competitive nature of online pricing. Many of you talk about the consumer as if they are clueless, they are not. There are all sorts of buyer types and we know price is the driving factor in most online purchases. But, there are many other ways to skin that cat, at least I think so anyway.

My perspective is I don't mind paying a little more for the product if the item is shipping from a West Coast warehouse, usually in California or Nevada. That means your overall shipping costs are going to be minimal out of the gate and the product is most likely going to arrive a little faster than if it were shipped from the East Coast. Ya, I know, that pretty much leaves all this Free Shipping up to the BIG Boys.

I remember one instance where we even went as far as producing a table showing the competitor's pricing after all their offers were calculated. In the first column showed my client's discounted pricing plus estimated shipping costs, a no dicker sticker type thing. In many instances, we were the best price overall. Unfortunately there may have been a few items that were a little bit higher but hey, you cannot please everyone!

I really don't think you can survive giving away the farm. I mean, if you're operating at a minimal profit margin now due to the already competitive nature of your products, offering anything for free is only going to eat into that remaining profit. Unless of course you have VOLUME like Zappos, that's another case study in itself. They're getting discounts from the providers that are not available to you and I, the Small to Medium Business.

Bottom line? In today's changing economy, and with the challenges in energy costs, business is going to go local or to those who have product in warehouses that are in close proximity to the customer. It has to. There's nothing free about shipping a product from New York to California when it is available here for a few dollars more. There are all sorts of costs involved in that transaction and I don't see that business model surviving much longer.

Okay, rant over. Smacks self upside head! I HATE FREE SHIPPING! It has been the bane of our development time. All sorts of logic is required to deal with the myriad of Free Shipping options, features, etc.

netmeg

3:46 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Hate away. But that's not going to change consumer behavior.

And yes, one of my clients did stock a warehouse in Nevada for west coast shipping. Depending on your scale, you can also work out storage and shipping with a 3PL (third party logistics) company, or carrier such as UPS or Fed Ex.

pageoneresults

4:01 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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And yes, one of my clients did stock a warehouse in Nevada for west coast shipping. Depending on your scale, you can also work out storage and shipping with a 3PL (third party logistics) company, or carrier such as UPS or Fed Ex.


Don't get me wrong, Free Shipping may be a necessity for many. What you describe above gets into the logistics of it all and requires a bit of manpower to set up and maintain. Unfortunately many small to medium businesses may not have that luxury.

We do offer the Free Shipping but it comes with stipulations. The first one being that all items shipped under that program are sent via USPS Flat Rate. There are instances when other methods are more viable from a cost perspective but for smaller items that fit in the boxes up to 75 pounds, you can't beat it. I'm not here to promote the USPS either but I think it was a brilliant move on their part to gain some of their market share back.

Nothing is Free. I think the general consumer public understand that. That shipping cost is being made up somewhere. Or, it is being taken out of the minimum profit levels already established. You're now dipping into profits to cover the shipping costs. At what point do you stop? When your margins are down to 5-10%? Can you survive at that level? Sure you can, if you're a Zappos or similar business. Mom and Pop surely can't compete in that space and neither can most for-profit businesses. ;)

jwolthuis

6:00 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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This is a great thread, but it seems to be centered around subsidized (free) shipping in the lower 48 states. The web is global, and we do a significant percentage of business with Canada and the EU.

Is anyone absorbing their shipping costs to ship free to Canada?

What about the UK... is anyone subsidizing the cost of Priority Mail Int'l to drive UK sales?

JS_Harris

6:44 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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You can detach shipping from your business.

Provide a method for customers to figure out the exact shipping cost themselves DIRECTLY from the shipping company. A psychological event then happens in which shipping will be perceived to be the UPS guys fault if it costs too much, not yours.

If shipping costs continue to increase it becomes a good idea to make clear you're not in the shipping business. Let the postal service take the heat.

netmeg

7:06 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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(One thing I should probably mention - 90% of my clients are B2B and not B2C. It does make something of a difference)

pageoneresults

7:09 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

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This is a great thread.


Yes, it most definitely is. It will allow some of us to vent our frustrations that are centered around the Free Shipping model. ;)

But it seems to be centered around subsidized (free) shipping in the lower 48 states. The web is global, and we do a significant percentage of business with Canada and the EU.


Oh, forgive us for leaving out the rest of the World! :) I didn't even want to go there yet. One of my clients have a unique product line so we do ship a few products abroad. Those are personally handled by the client and shipping arrangements are agreed upon by buyer and seller. Every penny of those costs is the buyer's responsibility.

Did you say Canada? I don't think my client will ship there anymore due to the restrictions in place. My understanding is that the paperwork and costs may not be worth it unless of course the product is unique and cannot be obtained in Canada.

The above not only applies to Canada but other countries. I find it hard to believe that many of the products ordered here in the US cannot be acquired closer to home. There are not that many unique items left that force you to order from a particular country, or are there? I don't get out much as you can tell. ;)

Most of my clients are local. When it comes to shipping outside the Continental United States, costs become somewhat prohibitive in many instances. We'll sometimes refer those visitors to resources in their area that may carry the same and/or similar product lines. That's the best you can do. Unless of course they want to pay $300 in shipping for a $100 product. Hey, I've seen it happen!

rogerd

4:45 pm on Mar 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Historically, direct marketing companies have made a small profit on shipping by charging slightly higher than actual average rates. I say "average" because few want to make their customers calculate weights, zones, etc. Doing it online makes it easier, of course, vs. print or broadcast media.

I've tested free shipping offers, and for me they boosted sales 15-25%. The maximum sales boost will occur when free shipping is rare. If you offer free shipping every month or two, it will be devalued as an incentive to order now.

The increased number of merchants promoting free shipping puts pressure on the traditional model. Two ways to combat this (though neither is perfect):

- Use a cheap, flat rate like Overstock's $2.95. I find when I'm shopping I lump that in with "free." For the merchant, though, it adds $3 per order. Good if you handle cheap or light stuff. I'm sure when Overstock sells heavy stuff, they have built the freight into the price.

- Do a shipping loyalty program like Amazon Prime. Charge a customer $79 or whatever for a year of free shipping. Once they do that, they will work to use that sunk cost and take advantage of free shipping. I'm sure a few customers save hundreds, but many more save less than the annual fee. I am an Amazon Prime member, and use them a lot. This will work best if you have repeat customers, of course.
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