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Can prices be too low?

         

dickbaker

9:51 pm on Oct 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I was checking out a forum related to my niche, and saw a thread asking about a particular online retailer. The poster was wondering if anyone else had bought from the retailer. He was asking because the retailer's prices were very low and the shipping was free. IOW, he was uncertain because it seemed too good to be true.

My prices on many items are less than this other retailer's, and I'm wondering just how many sales I lose because of the perception that it may be too good to be true. My cart abandonment rate is higher than what it should be, although I'm sure there are other contributing factors.

Has anyone ever considered raising prices to appear to be more reputable?

tkwg

10:21 pm on Oct 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Not only will you appear more reputable, you will also gain reputability. Put it this way, near-everyone who has worked in or anywhere near the field of retail will know of cut-throats threatening their jobs. All those people there alone (which is as many as 1/3 depending on your visitor demogs) will see your prices, see others, and decide with that knowledge and their budget weighed-in.

dickbaker

10:49 pm on Oct 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the reply. Here's where I have a hard time with the idea of raising prices.

I spent nearly 30 years as an advertising photographer. In advertising, perception is everything. I positioned myself as a premium photographer, and I got premium jobs. I also lost a lot of jobs because others came in much cheaper.

After all that time, guess who made more money? It wasn't me.

When I price an item, I use Google Products to compare prices. I'll price myself above the retailers who are ridiculously low, and above those who seem to be small operations, so that my competitors are the large discount retailers.

I don't know if that's smart or not. On the one hand I'm giving customers the same low prices they'd get at the discount retailers while giving them better service. On the other hand, customers may see the low prices, not know who I am, and figure I'm some guy doing this after school.

MrHard

1:38 am on Oct 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



It also happens that people call in to places which are or seem to be more reputable for customer service issues or questions,

...then turn around and buy from a discounter who never answers their phone.

Wlauzon

5:05 pm on Oct 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It also happens that people call in to places which are or seem to be more reputable for customer service issues or questions,
...then turn around and buy from a discounter who never answers their phone.

But that is really nothing new. 30 years ago people would browse the high end stereo stores for info, then buy from some discounter down the street, who is out of business 6 months later.

It has always been a problem, but as long as people are willing to operate at a loss and people buy it, it will never change.

dpd1

6:55 pm on Oct 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I agree... There have always been customers that use the reputable sellers, only to reward the ones that did noting for them. But I believe that mentality was the minority years ago, whereas now, it seems to be the majority. Doing that to someone after meeting them face to face made it a little harder for people to do. The anonymity of the internet makes it extremely easy to do, plus the internet allows more sellers, because of less start up costs... Sellers who probably should have never started a business. I was reading a forum involved with our industry the other day, and one person posted: "all I care about is the price... whoever has the lowest price gets my business". That mentality won't be going away, but I think there's ways to avoid those people.

I too wish I had the answers on pricing. We are lucky in that most of our products we make ourselves and we don't wholesale. So I don't even have to worry about someone beating our price, because there isn't anybody else. But there are similar products that compete. I often raise prices out of necessity... I don't want to, because I know people don't like it. But I know that if I don't, there won't be a business, period. On one hand I will have people complain about prices being high. Then other people will actually tell me they think our prices are too low for what we offer. So I guess the message there is... it all depends who the person is. I'd rather sell less stuff for a decent price then kill myself to sell twice as much and make the same amount. So the trick seems to be, how do you attract and satisfy those people who think the prices are fair. 'Made in America' is one thing that helps. Customization of products. Tech help that goes above and beyond the majority of sellers out there. Being part of the community and letting people know I'm a real person and not just a faceless company reselling Chinese goods... I think the more people can think of you as a real person, just like them... The harder time they will have thinking of you as simply a price on a site. But over all, I often find that raising prices isn't the terrible thing you might assume it will be. Most of the time people just keep buying. I think it's easy to take a few comments about high prices and have that stick in your mind. When in reality, there's probably a lot more people that have no problem with the prices.

dickbaker

10:06 pm on Oct 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I recall the owner of the photo studio I worked for before going on my own saying that he thought he should lose about 25% of prospective jobs because his price was considered too high. I think it's a valid point.

No matter how low I price my products, there's always someone selling for less. I'll get calls where the person says that somesite.com has the product for $X less. I'll say, "that's a good price, but I can't lower mine because I'll lose money." Most of those people wind up buying from me.

I just worry about the possibility that being low priced may be scaring people away.

dpd1

2:41 am on Oct 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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There's lots of psychology involved with that kind of thing. I do think there's something to be said for standing your ground. People respect that... Sometimes always trying to bow down to the masses can evoke a feeling of desperation, and that can be a turnoff. When I was working in my last business, I worked very hard to try and make people happy when they hired me. Oftentimes I would get work on jobs where the budget was really low, because a company's "regular guy" was unavailable. Well, I knew darn well he was available... He just told them that because he didn't want to struggle with a low budget. Since I didn't get as much work as I needed, I would take it. Not only would the job be harder, but I'd have to take a cut myself lots of times. Well, you'd think that they would remember that and reward you by giving you the next big job... Wrong... They'd call their "regular guy" again. Why? Because they figure if you're willing to take anything, and if you're that desperate, then you must not be that good. So it's something to think about... But it probably depends a lot on what you're selling. If it's high level merchandise, then I would say that's a good possibility. Highbrow customers tend to care more about the 'image' of a place. But if it's the same stuff they can get all over, then maybe not so much. But only you would know best.

piatkow

2:05 pm on Oct 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Its a horrible complex relationship between price and image which varies by niche. Some products have to be "reassuringly expensive" while others are totally commoditised and people will just go for the cheapest.

onlineleben

6:30 am on Oct 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Just a quick one from Europe: I was in the market for an electronic device and it retails for EUR 139. I bought it on eBay for EUR 70 and it is new and not damaged and packed in original carton.
When I picked up the box (seller was in same city), I asked and he told me that he still made a decent profit. He also told me that he sometimes had to price items higher than he originally inteded to as he wasn't selling as many at the original low price.

Then there is also the perception that a high priced item is high quality. Just think about Mercedes cars. In the past this was true (more or less), but nowadays they are manufactured having the same quality issues as any other car. But people still believe that they are worth more than others.

To differentiate from those that are selling below your price point, why not offer something they can't? Maybe a guarantee or a bonus like the "99 things to do with this widget" report? It could add tremendous value and that would mean higher price.

Good luck and keep us updated.

dickbaker

10:22 pm on Oct 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I can see where the maker of an item would benefit from having a higher price/quality perception. However, I'm selling the exact same items as my competitors.

That said, I suspect there's the perception that a low-priced seller may not be reputable. The Catch-22 is that, if I raise my prices, I'll be more expensive than some of my well-known competitors and if I keep my prices low, I'll be regarded as less reputable than those competitors.

I think the only solution is to get a more recognized name. At that point raising prices could be justified.

piatkow

9:24 am on Oct 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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In terms of web sales I imagine that a high street retailer could charge a small premium because the B&M stores give a comfort factor.