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There has to be something wrong here. Can anyone tell me what it is?
[edited by: engine at 10:10 am (utc) on June 19, 2008]
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Several weeks later it will turn out the check was fradulant and the $1970 will be taken out of your bank account. Probably with an additional $20-30 bank charge for non-payment of the check. Plus perhaps additional $30 charges (or more) because this unexpected deduction lowered your balance to such a level that other checks/payments are now bouncing.
Best thing to do is tell the guy your distributor is back-ordered with no ETA for new products and he should just order from someone else.
Oh, and where is this guy located? Nigeria or Russia?
[edited by: LifeinAsia at 10:18 pm (utc) on June 18, 2008]
Just for fun, I'll suggest that he wire the funds to my account. Or is there a downside to that?
No downside in wiring, someone has to physically go to the bank to wire money.
Before the bank issued key fobs as an extra level of security, if someone had somehow hacked my logon credentials, they could have wired money without my permission.
Is Wire Transfer 100% Secure? [webmasterworld.com]
Although it regards bank wires from Ghana, the links and discussion about the reversibility of bank wires should be useful to you in understanding what the angle is regarding the current order you are talking about.
You are exactly right to follow your gut on this one...
Once,you provided the details above,I am going to instruct my client to issue you a check of ( $1970) which comprise the items price along with the shipping charges.
This is a classic scam - I wish I could post a thread here of someone who strung along a scammer he picked up on a bike sale from craigslist using these exact same tactics. Whenever someone offers you more than you are asking, it's a scam. If you want to report it, report it, but in any case run away!
Bear in mind, in countries like that there are real businesses. Also remember that banks have ways to fight fraud as well. You will have to speak with your bank about the additional steps though.
Once you receive and cleared the check at your bank,I want you to deduct the money of your item and send the remaining balance to my shipping agent,so that he can come to your destination for the pick-up along side with all the other item i have bout in various stores.
This is a popular scheme among fraudsters nowadays. They order one or more items and send a cheque that surpasses the amount they have to pay and ask to transfer the balance to an "agent".
These guys do not want the goods they are only after the balance between cheque and invoice amount.
Search in Google for "Overpayment Cheque Scam" or look here:
[hoax-slayer.com...]
Examples:
thanks for the quick response am okay with price,and because am far away from united states so don't worry about the shipment i have shipping agent that carter for my pick up any where in the world. i will instruct my client to send you a cashier's cheque of (5000) so what you have to do immediatley the check gets to you just deduct the funds for the puppies($500) and send the excess money ($4500) to my shipping agent so that they can be able to pick the puppies up from your destination and which will also covers the shipping fees of my other consignments in the state. so if this is okay by you, you can forward your full name, address and cell phone number. expecting your response back.
Not all orders are fraud if your smart check it out verify the funds are ok or the certified check is good deposit the money order the goods ship the goods and send the guy a thank you.
If it is a fraud leave it alone and move on.
call the bank to make sure the check is good
Don't call a phone number that's printed on the check. Look up the banks number
Several weeks later it will turn out the check was fradulant and the $1970 will be taken out of your bank account.
The way this scam works is it actually gets deposited in your account and in most cases, even when you check with the bank they give you the Hail Mary, High Five. Then WEEKS LATER . . . . **POOF**.
The Bank that Issued the certified check can be verified by checking the routing numbers on the check, then your bank can verify the Bank is legit and can contact. Once contacted the certified check number then can be verified as good or bad it isn't hard to do and your bank will be more than happy to help make sure the deposit is a good deposit and not a fraud.
Heck guys dealing worldwide is a norm now so if you follow good procedures and cover your bases then your good to go, it is rushing into a deal that gets ya in trouble.
My case was greed and I rushed into the deal but that was 7 years ago and I was just getting into the internet and just plain dumb for lack of words.
The beauty of the Internet is no borders, if you only want to sell in North America just start a brick and mortar chain.... the E-Commerce should be for the world wide.... it almost seems like people are willing to say.. not in N.A. = scam... I can't go there yet... again I didn't see the email he posted so maybe I am missing something.
Later, the seller finds that his or her bank has dishonoured the cheque. In some cases, the bank may actually have cleared the funds, but discovers later that the check is a forgery or was stolen.
As to my personal experience, we've only gotten one such attempt from Giana. We slam dunked that baby, we don't need money THAT bad!
How do you tell? I can't help you on that. You have to read all the signs beforehand. If I were in this position, if I didn't refuse the transaction entirely, I would wait a substantial amount of time before moving any merchandise. You will note these guys always relate some sense of urgency.
A certified check can be verified by your Bank before the check is even deposited. A Certified check is cash plain and simple were the problem comes in is from stolen checks from clerks and or forged.
A simple call to the Bank that issued the check can either verify the check is good or a forged check by the certified number on the check. As I said above by the check routing numbers a bank can verify the Bank get the contact information and contact the bank to verify the check number is good or bad.
I really can't see why the long discussion if you take the check to the bank get if verified it is as good as cash. If you don't verify the check then you will be like me hung out to dry.
You will note these guys always relate some sense of urgency.
Yes, that is almost always the case with fraud. They can't get the goods fast enough because they know the clock is ticking on the the fraud being exposed.
I'd rather risk not making a profit than losing a couple of weeks' worth of profit.
