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Serious Issues with paypal processing payments

There seems to be some serious issues with paypal

         

bwnbwn

2:05 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I have gotten word there are some serious ongoing issues with payment processing through paypal.

It looks like some big processors having issues with subscriber based payments and from the read "any paypal payment". The word is paypal is working on the issue that has been ongoing now for 2 weeks. Two weeks with an issue is a big problem that has been kept very quite.

That may explain the issue I just had with paypal.

I just bought something from ebay and used a credit card to pay for the item. The item wasn't a small item so this is the reason for using my cc.

Paypal doesn't process the cc card but hits my bank account and causes me an overdraft actually several overdrafts.

I know I used the cc as paypal asked me the question "are you sure you want to pay by cc and pay interest on the charge" Well du yes I am. Then Paypal drafts my bank but of course how do you prove it.

The credit card was not declined or even tried as there was a Zero balance on the card. Besides I have a backup cc to use just to make sure if the cc was declined the backup was suppose to be used. Neither card was run.

I wonder if this is related to the problem I was notified about as it references Any paypal payments might be affected.

If your a merchant using paypal be on the look out for double processing and or lack of payments. Check very carefully all Paypal transactions.

dreamcatcher

3:17 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

bwnbwn

5:10 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I don't think this is the same issue as this isn't realted to the IPN issue but double charges or failure to charge. The information I got was it involves all potential paypal charges. This may explain my problem with the non use of my cc card.

I will take some responsibility as I should have verified the charge to the cc and I could have avoided the overdraft.

Bjorn Iceland

6:17 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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There was a failed PayPal site update on May 15th which caused many ongoing issues such as:

* The PayPal Handling Cart feature completely broke down,
* Cross border payments could not be made as the drop down country list did not work,
* Customers have been flooded with hundreds of duplicate subscription emails from PayPal,
* Payments from PayPal are no longer associated with the relevant subscriptions,
* Some customers have been and are being DOUBLE BILLED by PayPal
* Merchants have not been receiving Instant Payment Notifications or failure notifications,
* Merchants/customers are unable to cancel subscriptions.

PayPal admit the failed site update here:
[paypaldeveloper.com...]
(See the Latest Blog Entries on the right for the other issues.)

Other reports of the issues, where the silence from PayPal has been deafening:
[paypaldeveloper.com...]
[paypaldeveloper.com...]

This was not fixed quickly, or a rollback done, and without good communications with merchants from PayPal. Therefore many merchants are now leaving PayPal for good.

[edited by: Bjorn_Iceland at 6:19 pm (utc) on May 29, 2008]

bwnbwn

6:50 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Bjorn Iceland
Thanks for the great update. I don't do any processing with paypal so I don't have any reason to keep up with it. Really suprised there hasn't been any talk at all on it posted on the forum here as it sounds to be a large issue but sure has been quiet.

pageoneresults

7:12 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Sheesh, PayPal has a hiccup and its the end of the world? Come on people, its not like this happens on a regular basis.

I was just over at the developer blog and there appears to be only one issue remaining at this time and that has to do with reporting. Everything else was Resolved. What more is there? If you are having individual issues, PayPal requests that you submit a ticket to get them resolved. Apparently they had some hefty changes that didn't turn out quite as planned. And I agree, this shouldn't happen with a company of their size and stature, but it did.

bwnbwn

7:27 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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pageoneresults
Actually it is an ongoing issue and not all the issues have been resolved as of today. I haven't read the blog myself all I know is I got some information this morning telling me there was an ongoing issue with paypal, and the company felt they needed to tell the customers doing business with them they are waiting on paypal's asistance in getting the issue's resolved.

I understand all about hiccups but a two week hiccup is more than a hiccup.

Lovejoy

8:54 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I've been using PayPal since 2000 without any serious issues. I have not had any issues with subscriptions to date and I'm not too concerned at this point. Considering an equally large company, Microsoft, takes over a year to work the bugs out of their software
eg XP and Vista ;~)

Lovejoy

bwnbwn

9:14 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Lovejoy good point there.

Receptional Andy

9:19 pm on May 29, 2008 (gmt 0)



From what I've seen, PayPal made a real hash of this update, which meant that some merchants no longer receive any payments. For a payment processor, this is a pretty serious business.

plumsauce

9:43 am on May 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Sheesh, PayPal has a hiccup and its the end of the world? Come on people, its not like this happens on a regular basis.

Maybe not.

But, it was very badly handled from beginning to end.

First, they would not admit to the problem immediately.

Second, they couldn't roll back.

Third, they took *days* to set a deadline for a fix.

Fourth, they missed the deadline(s) several times.

Fifth, they took *days* to find the errors.

Welcome to the world of Programming 2.0

It's not only the managers, it's the freaking programmers.

Except, they aren't "programmers", they're, ahem, cough, "software engineers".

In previous times, this sort of thing would have been found in testing, not production. And if you *had* to do it in the production stream, you could back out, or fix it within hours, not days.

These newly minted "software engineers" might have CS degrees, but they're miserable excuses as code toads.

From an old school code toad, and proud of it.