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talking avatars on an eshop?

         

rampzoid

10:41 pm on Dec 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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hi,

i'm toying with the idea of putting a talking avatar on my eshop ie either for an introduction and/or faq's.

anyone know what the general opinion is on this?

lorax

1:40 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What is the purpose? What would it say or will it simply animate the mouth and not have sound?

blend27

1:49 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I personally bounce right of the site as soon as I see one of these, especially if I am looking to purchase something and it requires to pay attention to the technical details of the widget. I like my web Silent and my speakers to produce that soothing sound of Mozart. But it’s just me.

zulu_dude

2:04 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I would agree with Blend. If I saw a talking avatar on any website, let alone an ecommerce site that I might need to entrust with my credit card details, I would leave immediately.

In my humble opinion, the only animations that should be on an ecommerce site are banners advertising special deals on items sold on the site. And even those should be minimal.

ambellina

4:17 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I usually assume that any image on a site that moves or talks is some time of spammy/useless/otherwise off-putting advertisement and completely ignore it. And if it talks during my tv shows, I close the page and never return. However, if you really want to use it, you could always make it an optional link on your intro/faq page. For example, have a link at the top saying "See this Introduction in video format" that leads to a separate page for the video, but still have it in text form below.

jsinger

4:55 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Does Microsoft Office still come with the little paperclip guy?

rampzoid

6:30 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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lorax & others thanks for your replies.

i sell toys & get loads of kids visiting my site.

the avatar (animated & lip synched) would answer questions from a drop down or be used to promote special offers etc.

personally i think it adds a bit of 'life' to a site & can be informative provided it is properly used.

lorax

6:44 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have to agree with others - I wouldn't tolerate it. I want speed and convenience (along with great prices and low shipping). If my ability to shop on the site is inhibited then I'm more likely to leave. The big caveat is if it's actually useful somehow. I'm not sure what this would mean but if it could be made optional & "smart" and tell me about deals or how to use your site then I might actually try it.

rampzoid

7:00 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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lorax - i don't like sites cluttered with loads of flashing gifs & animations - it is very distracting & can be annoying.

as i said kids mostly visit my site so the avatar might have potential novelty value as well as contributing to the sites general functionality.
also the avatar is only activated on request otherwise, it just sits there moving around a little just to let you know its there if required.

jsinger

11:39 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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also the avatar is only activated on request otherwise, it just sits there moving around a little just to let you know its there if required.

Wow, sounds annoying. Can't see anyone activating it. Do you have another avatar to explain how to activate it?

Microsoft's Paper Clip Man has been discontinued as of this year. Since 2003 it was turned off by default. Most people, I read, hated it.

Alas, it does appear that "talking avatars" (sounds like a bird) are making a minor comeback this year.

HRoth

12:13 am on Dec 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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One thing to consider is that there are bunches of adults and kids who find it really hard to concentrate on what's on the screen if parts of the display are moving. I think the Clippie debacle demonstrates that.

ispy

12:57 am on Dec 15, 2007 (gmt 0)



I actually like these. They can give an image to your business because you can go for a certain look, gender, clothes, accents etc. It's like a live customer service rep, you can program it to answer questions about shiopping, returns etc.

Having said that we never followed through on the idea. I guess it just looked to amateur-ish, in part because it resembles a cartoon, or out there even though it seemed like a neat idea.

rocknbil

8:17 am on Dec 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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rampzoid remember you are amongst a group of web developers here and it is common knowledge that a professional business site should be devoid of "stupid web tricks."

But to level the field, it's important to remember rampzoid's site is for toy sales. Although the children aren't the ones spending the money, they seem to have a hypnotic influence over their parents' wallets. :-) And if these widgets keep the kids' interest, it's possible such a thing **could** generate conversions.

I too find them annoying - but in the context of your niche, you'd probably want to gather a little more info on whether such things work in your field, and run some pre-testing on shoppers. It's been forever since I looked at a toy site, how's toys R' us doing, is that giraffe still doing well? :-)

I'm also here reporting a siting of the MS Office paper clip at a client's location today, it was . . . horrifying . . . . it's still alive and well.

rampzoid

11:18 am on Dec 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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thanks again for the sensible input

to jsinger:

"Wow, sounds annoying. Can't see anyone activating it. Do you have another avatar to explain how to activate it?"

yeah you're right - forgot about that - i would require an infinite number of avatars each requiring to activate the other - must be some way around that like a 'request button' or something?

btw sorry about your obsession with the 'paper clip man'.

rampzoid

11:48 am on Dec 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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hi rocknbil - i appreciate most of your general comments.

however i don't understand your "cheap tricks" comment particulaly when it comes to making money.

i operate one of europes top, let me say, specialist sports entertainment toy websites.

personally, i don't think its a 'cheap trick' to have an animated avatar providing details of special offers etc - only on request.

as i've said & as you have kindly appreciated, my site sells toys - 'plain & quick' is fine for say an online banking service etc but when kids are involved i'm not sure - will try it & obtain some feedback as suggested.

HarryM

12:51 pm on Dec 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My bank is a major UK high-street bank and they use animated avatars on their home page. They are used to advertise products, but are tastefully done, do not slow down the page load time, or impede site naviagtion. IMHO they work and add something to the site and even the brand image. But I am sure they were very well researched and expensive to design and implement.

But they don't talk. If they did they would look like a cheap gimmick on a financial page, although the idea might work on a toy site.

jsinger

2:35 pm on Dec 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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btw sorry about your obsession with the 'paper clip man'.

Clippy IS the world's most infamous "talking avatar":
[en.wikipedia.org...]

Born in '97, quickly stunted, then killed off at age 10. (no doubt a well-researched execution by a pretty smart company)

My interest stems from sitting within earshot of our head bookkeeper who groaned whenever Clippy encroached on HER screen. Like most offices, we learned how to subdue the reviled little fellow.

I should add that our main office is in a rare area that isn't served by a hi speed connection. There, we access the web by phone line. Loading speed still matters to me and to the 5% of our customers who use telephone connections.

I think it may be **okay** for a toy site. However shoppers, ESPECIALLY KIDS, are now pretty ecommerce savvy. And an infrequently visited website isn't comparable to Microsoft applications, often used continually.

As for branding, the same justification has been made for every briefly-cute web vexation since Day One.
The question isn't whether some bank (as in sub-prime lender and Pfishing LOL) uses a babbling avatar but whether Amazon, Wal-Mart.com and other successful commerce sites do.

Give it a test and report back. You didn't say, at first, that you sold toys. The subject is interesting.

pbradish

12:09 am on Dec 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I suppose you'd have to test the results. With children they may work, but most (if not all) adults I've spoken with find them highly annoying.

As a general rule of thumb though, I always advise to stay away from those talking avatars. People order from many different locations and at all times of the day. There's nothing more annoying than a talking avatar from the cubicle or on a laptop when your wife is sleeping.

rampzoid

1:03 am on Dec 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

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pbradish - thx for your reply - i believe everyone is missing the point - the animated talking avatar is only activated when asked to do so by the user - however sounds like a good idea for annoying the wife.