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Paypal accepting Credit cards

Do you prefer them over merchant accounts

         

JoeHouse

11:38 pm on Jan 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello Again

Now that Papal is accepting credit cards, do you prefer them over traditional merchant accounts?

What is the advantage of a merchant account over Paypal if any?

Seeing that Paypal now offers credit cards why would anyone want to pay those high rates/fees for a merchant accounts?

What is the trend now regarding this? Paypal or Merchant Account? What would you do if you had to decide?

Ecommerce Business Owners please jump in with your comments.

Thanks!

Corey Bryant

12:11 am on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What is the advantage of a merchant account over Paypal if any?

With a merchant account, your money is usually deposited into your bank account in 24-48 hours. Your name appears on the conusmer statement. And customers never have to leave your site, maintaining consistency.

Using Paypal - they still have to "register" when they pay you. They will get incessant little emails saying click here to update your account.

Seeing that Paypal now offers credit cards why would anyone want to pay those high rates/fees for a merchant accounts?

More control over your money. You are already subjecy to Visa's rules and regulations. Now using Paypal, you are also subject to their rules & TOS.

Or are you talking about their credit cards?

Plus a lot of people still do not trust Paypal & most do not know they do not need to be a member of Paypal to use it (as long as the business has the proper account). In the U.S., this has been the case for quite sometime, but still people do not know.

What is the trend now regarding this? Paypal or Merchant Account? What would you do if you had to decide?

A merchant account. It shows the consumer that you are stable. Most consumers understand what it takes to get a merchant account. It shows that you are serious about your business.

The biggest problem with Paypal is that anyone can get Paypal. People under 18, etc. And I think this is what scares some people. They want to know the product that they are buying is stable and if something happens to it - the company will stand behind it.

-Corey

JoeHouse

1:49 am on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Corey Thanks!

Your information has been very helpful. One last question.

Does having a paypal shopping cart hurt your search engine rankings because its a redirect?

gpilling

3:49 am on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We have both - the paypal shopping cart was easier to setup than what our bank wanted to use.

So we use Paypal with the address verifaction turned on (why wasn't that the default setting?) for internet orders, and our merchant account for wholesale and phone retail customers.

We currently have about half paypal and half retail phone orders - so it seems that there are some people that are not comfortable with paypal, and others that arent bothered.

Since paypal has no user fees other than the transaction, why not have both yourself?

phantombookman

8:36 am on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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why would anyone want to pay those high rates/fees for a merchant accounts?

Paypal is much more expensive than my merchant account.

Also the biggest factor - credibility.

sharbel

2:02 pm on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My merchant account is pretty much in line with what paypal charges. Actually, its a tad more because of a monthly minimum fee that I sometimes dont meet.

Even though it costs more, I prefer keeping my customers on my own sites. Moreover, I it's easier for me to program since I can process the order in the database right when I get the verification from the XML Webservice that I use from my processor. With PayPal, I have to wait for the call back THEN process.

On one of my sites, I do have PayPal as an option to pay. For every 20 subscriptions I get (non-recurring subs), maybe 1 will use the PayPal option.

All that said, if PayPal would allow developers to post information from our own forms for verification, I would consider using it more.

Corey Bryant

2:53 pm on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does having a paypal shopping cart hurt your search engine rankings because its a redirect?

Glad I could help. I am not really certain about the SEO ratings unfortunately. We have our own cart that we usually supply to our customers. I usually leave the SEO up to the other guys :)

-Corey

furman

9:29 pm on Jan 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone in the UK have any experience with Nochex (and Actinic)? AFAIK they don't require sign up for sales upto £90 and are accepting credit cards as well as debit cards now. I am working on an Actinic store, I may just include Nochex with cheque and bank transfer for payment initially and not include paypal unless I take international orders. Plus Nochex has a no chargeback policy and their rates are lower.

pp_rb

9:08 pm on Jan 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Using Paypal - they still have to "register" when they pay you. They will get incessant little emails saying click here to update your account.

Not true! They do not have to "register". They do have to enter all of the information necessary for us to process a payment (e.g. credit card number, billing address, etc.), and they are offered an opportunity to register after they have paid, but they are not forced to sign up. They will get an e-mail receipt for the transaction, and if they do not choose to sign up, that should be the only e-mail they'll receive from PayPal.

sharbel

12:15 am on Jan 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thats only true for US merchants though, isn't it?

Corey Bryant

12:40 am on Jan 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thats only true for US merchants though, isn't it?

Well that is the $64 question. Reading thru PayPal UK no longer requires signup [webmasterworld.com], it still seems a bit confusing.

Plus even if you are a U.S. resident with the proper account, your customer receive incessant emails from Paypal asking them to register.

-Corey

BwanaZulia

12:48 am on Jan 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have had very little problems with PayPal. They are easy and people don't have to register now.

Hopefully the fees will drop as it becomes bigger.

BZ

pp_rb

12:56 am on Jan 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thats only true for US merchants though, isn't it?

The last update I got regarding this stated that the Account Optional feature was available in the following countries:

Australia
Belgium
Canada
France
Hong Kong
Netherlands
United Kingdom
United States

OlRedEye

3:22 am on Jan 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Account optional countries - for merchant or customer location?
And what do you guys think, if the customer no longer has to register, will the merchant still lose so many orders using Paypal? The interface looks quite nice and clean, but have customers lost faith in PP?

pp_rb

3:39 am on Jan 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Merchants within the listed countries will have Account Optional enabled for their accounts. The customers do not have to be within those countries.