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I do not want to spam and i want legitimate addresses for people interested in our line of products. There has to be a legit company that deals in this.
However, there ARE opt-in networks where people signup to receive e-mail through that network. So you will have to send your messages through their network, not directly.
i want legitimate addresses for people interested in our line of products.
Unless you procure this list from someone within your industry, you're not going to find a targeted list.
The best solution is to start bulding your own, from your site.
Consider visiting fourms in your market and try to strike some deals with the forum owners, for example sponsoring a forum newsletter or something to that effect?
I would suggest doing a JV with someone in your field that already has a list if you have a unique product.
You can also insert your marketing message within their weekly, monthly, whatever e-newsletters (as well as print newsletters).
What are some networks that you describe?
We aren't here to do your homework. It's not about showing you specific sites. You don't need a fish. What you need is to know how to fish so you can feed yourself for a lifetime. The above is how to do it. So go find those organizations and research their media kits, etc.
Good luck!
;)
We have a popup on our site to collect addresses. It was a goldmine until a few years ago. Sign ups are off 80%. Even a customer list isn't worth much with all the filtering and email address changing people do nowadays.
There is no way a third party list will be worth the cost.
There has to be a legit company that deals in this.There were dozens 5 years ago. The fact that you can't find one now, says it all.
We have a popup on our site to collect addresses. It was a goldmine until a few years ago. Sign ups are off 80%.
As you said, it's not 1998 anymore. Maybe the popup is your problem.
Our collection of email addresses (once very valuable items) tripled when we added our first popup around 2001. And frankly no one ever complained about it.
I'm sure the popup still does some good in collecting extra emails, but I've been considering removing it. The benefits now are probably outweighed by its intrusiveness.
BTW, our popup is designed with a cookie so that visitors only see it once in a blue moon. As such things go, ours is quite gentle.
Maybe the popup is your problem
Sorry... LOL! :)
As for all you naysayers...well...:shrug: maybe you should rethink your pessimistic/sarcastic responses?
[edited by: ItsAllBallBearings at 10:01 pm (utc) on Jan. 29, 2007]
The list was from a legitimate site and all customers on it have signed up to receive emails related to our market. We visited the site first, tested their email sign up, and confirmed its validity prior to buying the addresses.
We have no interest in spamming people and adding to the already overwhelming junk email problem. We just want to aggressively put ourselves in front of new customers and continue to grow our business. Additionally, our purchase was no different than a sales org obtaining leads through a viable, legitimate source.
While i always appreciate effective discussion with opposing views, you may want to think a bit more carefully in the future before you go flying off the handle with accusatory and sarcastic remarks.
However, absolutely there is always the case of some nutter out of 10,000 or 40,000 on the list who will complain about spam (instead of reading what he was opting into in the first place). Be sure to comply with the anti-spam laws in your country.
got a list, sent an email and its already producing sales.
Sales? What about profits? If that list was as you describe, it would have been VERY expensive.
Double opt-in is a relic because the second opt-in reduces signups to nearly zero... unless the list is something people really want to get on (and NO ONE knowingly wants to be on a list that will be shared)
Again... this isn't 1998. Email-wise it's not even 2003.
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Wonder how many Nigerians are on that list you bought? LOL!
I never said that email wasn't a legitimate way of marketing. We use it very effectively with our own website. My point was that email is often use illegitimately and that anyone using lists that they didn’t personally build, should be careful. You mentioned a bunch of ways of using someone’s list for email marketing. Even if it is legitimate is can appear to be spam to the receiver of the message.
For example:
Customer purchases from company A and on the check out form they forget to remove the check in the “would you like to receive spam from our partner sites” box.
6 months later company B purchases company A’s list which was legitimately harvested where the customer even agreed to receive junk mail from partner sites. Company b uses the list. The recipients of the email, don’t recognize company b and report them for spam. Server gets black listed. Company b can no longer depend on their email.
My recommendation: build your own list
ItsAllBallBearings,
Do you mind telling me what company you used for your e-mailing lists?
