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Suspicious transactions from Vietnam

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Raymond

6:21 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have received a series of fraud transaction from Vietnam. The person used 5 different identities to place 7 orders from us. All IPs are from United States, Billing address are in United States as well. Shipping addresses are all in Vietnam.

These orders share some common characteristics. No phone numbers, anon email addresses, express shipping, and relatively large orders. One thing that really give him away was he got mixed up with his email, where 2 of the orders with completely different addresses share the same email.

Do you think these are frauds? Have any of you received frauds from Vietnam?

Habtom

6:28 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello

You have got good reasons to believe that it is a fraud. From the points you mentioned, it is highly likely it is a fraud. From the other side though, not to harm innoncent customers, you should try to analyze if you have received similar orders before. Try to analyze more before you proceed with your delivery.

Though I am not sure how you could go through this, I am sure somebody on this discussion board will give you good ideas.

Habtom

Terabytes

7:28 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



If it smells like fraud...
go with your gut instinct...

you're probably correct...

(just my 2-cents...)

George_hu

7:52 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why not drop an E-mail and ask about the strange details?

Just an interesting story about a very well known (US) online shop.

I ordered 3*3 different style of CK underwear in amount of 156 USD. Card charged, goods not received.

After 6 weeks i try to contact them. They said parcel shipped, ask my local postal/custom authorities.

They found nothing since parcel never shippped.

I try to contact them again, 10 E-mails from me just ignored. (3 different address including whois contact)

Then they put a 10$ pending charge on my card.

I sent a fax and ask them to explain what is going on...they answered immediatelly.... (very interesting isn't it)

They said for testing purpose..."card still acitve test"

Well, i asked them if already charged 8 weeks ago, not shipped my goods, why needs to test my card?

There was no answer at all, 1 week later goods received,pending charge expired.

Even sometimes the merchant Suspicious...

derekwong28

12:48 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't ship it, Vietnam is now our greatest source of fraud. The number of fraudulent orders arising out of Vietman is 10 times more than all other countries combined, including Nigeria. We get several orders every day and have decided to block all vietnamese ip addreses.

Some of the latest attempts have got pretty nasty. They would actually make an order using the genuine shipping address of the cardholder. I think this is done either to soften us up, or our of revenge for declined orders.

I think Vietnam has now entered the superleague for credit card fraud.

lorax

1:07 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> 5 different identities to place 7 orders

Billing in the US and ship to in Vietnam. On one order ok. I can see that. But 7 orders and 5 different identities. That's a bit much. I'd post the 5 different identities and politely decline their orders. My guess is you'll see another series of orders from the same person within a week!