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DylanW

2:55 pm on Oct 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We rearranged some pages today, which got me thinking of this. We have several categories of products on our ecommerce website, and a few of these categories have up to several hundred items each, and these categories are broken up into several different pages (think a "Widgets: Blue Widgets: page 1" sort of hierarchy).

Now, recently, we've been designing pages so that we have more items on each page, thus cutting down on the number of pages (since there's a significant number of visitors that don't go on to page 2, page 3, page 4, etc.)

Then again, when you're looking at 50 product thumbnails per page, it can take quite a while to download the entire page, so it's entirely likely that more visitors see more pages overall, but perhaps not all the items on each page.

Is this the best way to do it? Is there a happy medium between number of pages and number of items on each page?

lorax

3:45 pm on Oct 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd suggest less items per page and more ways to locate/navigate to the widgets on the other pages. Also, it seems to me that if you don't already have a search you should add one.

andy_boyd

7:29 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think a page is much better with fewer items on it. Just think, the more the prospective customer has to look at, the longer his / her mind is not made up. Whereas, if your site is structured so they can easily and quickly find something of interest, rather than having to search around through a few different categories, you *should* get a higher conversion rate.

IMO you want to make your site something like a 1 way road system with every road leading to the checkout. A page with lots of different items is like adding a spaghetti junction to the 1 way system, it complicates matters and slows things down.

That's just about $0.02 worth there. :-)

jacker

8:08 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well said Andy...I always encourage merchants to break down their websites into as many categories are neccessary. If that means a list of everything from automobiles down through zulu dolls, so be it...the customer will be able to know where to find what they are looking for. Most traffic still comes from search engines and that way when the potential client hits your site, they are one click away from the product they are looking for.

Cheers
James

DylanW

8:26 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Typically I'd tend to go that way too, but part of the reason we're doing the large pages with very few subcategories (as I said, about two levels) is it's more of a fashion impulse-buy product.

The idea is that customers are browsing for something that piques their interest; they aren't looking for something extremely specific (more like the general type of item) and there aren't really any options to compare between items in the same category. This is mainly because this is how our offline retail shows work. But good point, I had never really thought of too many options as being confusing, only a little slow on load times.

rogerd

8:40 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'll argue the case for somewhat longer pages if the products are closely related or interchangeable. I'd compare the page to a store shelf - sure, it makes sense to put cosmetics and sporting goods in separate areas, but all the shampoo goes in one easy-to-shop section.

Forcing a user to click on many pages to see the various choices for a product type is a risk, IMO. Some won't bother, others will not realize there is more, etc. Even a fast-performing site will take some amount time to load each page.

Obviously, there are limits - you don't want huge pages, or to overwhelm and confuse the customer. But, all things being equal, I'd prefer to let the customer scroll down a screen or two than to make him/her look at an extra page or two.

lorax

12:45 am on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> forcing a user to click on many pages to see the various choices for a product type is a risk,

I totally agree. I wasn't very clear about what I meant by different ways to navigate to the lower pages. Think in terms of groupings.

Take an example of footwear. One grouping could be boots, shoes, sneakers while another could be work, recreational, casual, dress-up and yet another could be leather, cotton, man-made. This method does mean you need to understand your audience well and how they're likely to browse. You do not need to choose only one grouping. Create several - create many.

If you have a programmer available you can build an interactive tool to help your users cut through the chaff and get to what the base selection they want to browse through.

I realize not knowing the exact product line we're talking about means these suggestions might be off-the-mark but I'd bet there are ways to narrow down to a selection set even in your product line.

The bottom line is that I believe you need to do what you can to help your customer focus in on the selection set they want to choose from as quickly as possible. Using predefined selections is one way of doing this.

There will always be, however, some who are quite happy - and may even want - to look through the entire offering on one (or a few) pages. I say make the option available to them as well.

rogerd

1:20 am on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dylan, one other thought: if possible, offer the option of viewing the products in different groupings (should be easy enough if the pages are generated dynamically). For example, a runner might want to see your selection of "running shoes", while someone more interested in looks & fashion might want to see "Nike shoes". Yet another buyer might want to see "Shoes below $50". Offering the right choice might help close the deal.

DylanW

1:44 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You do not need to choose only one grouping. Create several - create many.

That's kind of what I've been thinking. I've seen several other sites do this and it seems to be the way to go.

Then again, I'm not sure how it will take here. As I said, the way it's set up now is kind of based on our offline retail sales setup. The concept of multiple groupings is completely different from any real-world layout.

rogerd

2:20 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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completely different from any real-world layout

That's the cool thing about a virtual store. Real stores wrestle with this all the time. I went to a megastore to buy a comb yesterday (probably not a great idea, but I was right there). I figured combs would be near the shampoo & hair care products. Wrong. Combs were in Cosmetics, a department that I don't usually frequent and to which I had to ask directions.

This same store also has at least three places where you can buy lightbulbs: hardware (for serious bulb shoppers), lamps (for purchases with lamps), and grocery (for convenience to general shoppers). To make it more confusing, not all sections stock all kinds of bulbs, so you may end up trekking across the store to find the exact kind you need. (From the store's standpoint, maintaining multiple locations probably requires twice as much inventory as is really needed from a volume standpoint.)

Your virtual store can solve all of these issues if your software is flexible enough to slice & dice different ways.

moose606

6:33 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have tried both ways, and the one long page with multiple items on a page convert much better. I think the reason is the visitors still scroll down the page more than we think they do. Most are not very sophisticated surfers.

lorax

6:57 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> The concept of multiple groupings is completely different from any real-world layout.

In our world (virtual) we have databases which make the presentation of the same data in multiple ways (groupings) so easy. In the real world a store only has so much stock on-hand and only so much space so they pick and choose what's the best way to display it. In our world - once the stock has been entered into the db, we can customize the cart to display it any number of ways with just a bit of recoding. If it doesn't work or we don't like it - trash it and try something else!

pickmygift

3:35 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)



I just recently opened an e-commerce site selling giftware. My competitors all have listed their products in like categories: photo frames, windchimes, etc. Call me a Bohemian (I am literally), but I put my products in "theme groups" southwest design, nautical, african american, etc. wherein you could find the photo frames, windchimes, etc. specifically designed for that theme. yes, I have a "search this site" button. But what do you all think of the use of the "themes" - I'd like some feedback please.

rogerd

3:55 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld, pickmygift. I'm no expert in giftware, but I'd guess there are people that shop by themes and others that shop for specific products. If possible, I'd try to do both, i.e., keep your themes, but add some direct links to product searches, e.g., "frames". In general, I think it's hard to predict how each customer will navigate or search, so try to offer options and make sure your search feature is easy to find.

GarryBoyd

5:34 am on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you are looking for impulse purchases, avoid having similar choices anywhere near each other. Giving a choice between 2 similar products is almost gauranteed to lead to a decision to purchase neither. I've tested this online and real world. Avoid making people choose between similar products at similar prices.

palmpal

11:37 pm on Oct 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"avoid having similar choices anywhere near each other"

Hello,

I offer products by category and then show different graphic designs. Would offering different graphic designs on the same product be a bad idea in your opinion?

AsleepATheWheel

12:10 am on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Put all the products in there respective catagories, (as small as you can), then put links to individual items, so each has its own optimised page. A lot of traffic should come direct from search engines rather than having to navigate about too much.

Paul

palmpal

12:52 am on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually that is exactly what I do. All my pages are static since I haven't had the time to figure out how to do a database yet! Your are right about visitors entering at the page they searched for. My products seem to attract a lot of lookers or people looking for ideas.

digitalghost

12:57 am on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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