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2checkout down?

Can anyone else confirm this?

         

Essex_boy

4:39 pm on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Attempted to visit 2checkout - got a 404. Anyone know whats going on?

I know hackers hit the site recently, is this an extension?

Essex_boy

7:12 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Ill checkout the forum, I wonder when things will be again.....

andy_boyd

7:51 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Another day, another problem with 2CheckOut.

Tried to login to my account this morning, 8:44 AM GMT. I finally got access after trying multiple times to get in and a long time and waiting.

The whole admin area takes ages for anything to load. And then when you do actually go to the Payments section, the table is so hard to understand I don't really know how they figure out their totals.

Anyone know why they hold a reserve? I am growing extremely suspicious of 2CheckOut, I would love a processor that doesn't have such a complicated display of transactions. I know from experience that PayPal are much clearer, what about other services like WorldPay and PaySystems?

jimmykav

8:25 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Andy

I know what you mean about the payments report - it is diabolical. I suspect the info we need is there but that one needs a degree in math to work out ho much they are going to pay out.

Holding a reserve is common (paysystems etc. do it as well) They keep that back in case of charge backs, bad transactions etc.

I think the reserve is normally released in the next payment cycle.

Jenstar

8:45 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Holding a reserve is quite common. I believe 2checkout holds the reserve for 6 pay periods (90 days) and it is generally 5% of sales, although they can adjust it if you are getting higher chargebacks and/or refunds.

Essex_boy

4:03 pm on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Used to work for world pay in Cambridge, I was the man that mailed the cheques out. Its a setup im considering using.

I chose 2CO just because it was quick and easy to use . Buy cheap buy twice.

So you think that they may be headig for financial trouble? they wil be if they dont get their act together.

andy_boyd

5:33 pm on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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$86,000,000 in sales processed in sales so far this year. I haven't been able to login most of today, not even to do the most basic of jobs, ie. update shipped orders etc.

Now when I finally did get allowed in, I received this short message:

"The sellers area is temporarily closed.

We are performing some routine software maintenance on our sellers database machine to help handle the extremely heavy load we have been seeing this week.

The database machine that handles purchases is not affected by this temporary outage.

Please try again in a few minutes"

Temporarily closed, that's ok, I was getting worried there for the last week or so when I could hardly even use the service I paid for. But don't worry, "The database machine that handles purchases is not affected by this temporary outage"! That's a change!

What is going on with these guys? Essex_boy, I too am thinking seriously about WorldPay, been speaking to others who use the service and they maintain that it is of a consistently high standard.

Essex_boy

6:16 pm on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The thing with world pay is this - The customer (You)must have their cheque on processing day.

heaven and earth is moved to ensure this - Besides that they have a lovely office complex in Cambridge!

I really do wonder about the professionalism of 2Co its close to 5 days since I tried to gain access to my admin area and not even an email from the company.

It doesnt take much to say sorry but hold in there.

Does it really?

ectect

9:59 am on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi

We had some problems like everyone else with 2Checkout and was really surprised when I got a phone call from them on Monday apologizing and explaining the situation.

I think the posts above are correct that an email should have been sent out to users once the system was up again.

It does seem that 2Checkout has grown very quickly - maybe that's part of their problem, that they're not catching up with themselves. For start up businesses I think the deal they offer is pretty good - just a shame that there are these continual server problems.

I would always offer an alternative payment method by the way - not just for these occasions but for customer choice.

Cheers

jimmykav

10:42 am on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Today i was able to log and see a payment report....

Essex_boy

5:35 pm on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can get in! Wahoooooooo

jimmykav

12:20 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Unable to access login page as of 13:20

andy_boyd

12:51 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Confirmed. Unable to access Sellers Login Page as of 13:49 GMT. It couldn't be again? Could it?

ectect

1:18 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I haven't been able to logon for the last 6 hours but orders do seem to be going through - just hope no-one needs a refund ;-)

Cheers

jimmykav

2:31 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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2CO state they suffered a 2 hour DOS attack against the seler server....

ectect

2:31 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can login now:

2Checkout.com News
Sep 24, 2003: Today a new DDOS attack came in against the Sellers server. The sellers area was inaccessible for roughly 2 hours.
The sellers area machine was updated to block the attack and is now functioning normally again.

We apologize for the inconvenience that the attack caused.

Cheers

Essex_boy

6:02 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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heavens above.

I discovered the problems with 2Co when I was just at the start of a new ecomm project - I thought about using 2co when things calmed down.

Im glad I didnt go with them on this one. My feeling is this is going to a common occurance for 2Co from now on.

Think long and hard about using them kiddies!

andy_boyd

9:34 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Things seem to have been resolved a lot quicker with this DDoS. Last time the sellers area was inaccessible for hours, if not sporadic for days. I have been able to access my account now for the last few hours with no problems, and I have also got a sale through.

Do you think they have taken this seriously and are now implementing the improvements they promised?

Essex_boy, if you didn't choose 2CO, who did you go with? WorldPay?

ectect

8:40 am on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Do you think they have taken this seriously and are now implementing the improvements they promised?

I hope and actually think so, well at least until the next time ;-) They did seem to sort things out a lot quicker this time though.

Cheers

Essex_boy

9:09 am on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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AndyBoyd yeah world pay I think are the best option - I have visited their offices and spoken to staff on other matter entirely.

Very proffessional. From experience I know their cheque processing dept is red hot cheques MUST go out.

Like the other post stated alls well until the next time!

andy_boyd

10:36 am on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ectect, things do seem a lot snappier with the improvements to their database. Sales marked not shipped and the payments section appear much faster now, although it's still nigh on impossible to understand what's going on. :)

Essex_boy, my hosting company use WorldPay and they have rave reviews of them. The host says he only found out about the 2CheckOut problems when he tried to purchase something from a site using 2CheckOut, only to find it wouldn't process and they lost his business. I wonder how much this happens to us ...

Has anyone ever had people emailing them about not being able to place an order due to 2CheckOut being messed up?

andrew23

10:57 am on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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well.. if I'm trying to login I get an Internal Server Error.
Anyway - I'm using kagi.com now and so far it has been going very well.
It's a great success and sales are up as well. Goodbye 2co.
I also gave paysystems.com a try but never got anything back from them after signing up.

Essex_boy

11:01 am on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Never heard of Kagi?!?!? Are they as easy to implement as 2co?

I have not had anyone email me on lost sales but I KNOW I must have done.

Worldpay are good. Quite a few of the mega ecom sites use them.

ectect

11:21 am on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi

We got mails the last time there were problems (10 days ago) but I don't think sales have been affected since then.

We have quite a few people using WorldPay too - only thing I've heard is that they hold onto funds for a while but the rest has been good. Also heard of no particular issues with NOCHEX or Secpay - they might also be worth a look for UK stores.

Cheers

jimmykav

2:15 pm on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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trying to login at 15:17 GMT results in :

The sellers area is temporarily closed .

We are performing maintainence on our sellers database machine
The database machine that handles purchases is not affected by this temporary outage.

Please try again in a few minutes

Essex_boy

3:24 pm on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So something is a miss isnt it?

I wonder if they are going to survive?

jimmykav

9:21 pm on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There is a post from Bill Jones the 2CO Chief Information Officer regarding the recent outages in the Announcement area of the support forums.

Lets all hope the changes and upgrades announced help.

jimmykav

7:42 pm on Oct 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just thought that it was only fair that I post some positive stuff after all the negative posts re: 2CO.

Everything seems to be quite smooth since the recent upgrade. All of the reports are now quick & responsive. Guess we will have to wait until the next DOS attack before we can give a totally clean bill of health.

Mr Bo Jangles

10:24 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think 2co's down yet again!

jimmykav

10:26 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Oh dear, oh dear - confirmed.
Cannot access page at 11:26 GMT

andy_boyd

10:40 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was just about to rejuvenate this thread again. Confirmed, unable to login to 2CheckOut Sellers area as of 11:38 AM GMT. Not again!

Maybe this is just a temporary problem with their database?

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