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Does Google's Simplistic Front Page also have creditbility problems

could a 10 year old have designed it !

         

caine

11:06 am on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The crux, is why when Google controls so much of the unique url traffic accross the net via itself, adwords, its partners such as AOL, seem's to get whipped or near on by the likes of MSN and Yahoo, when it comes to online buys, or even enquiries for non ecomm sites.

All i can put this down to is the front page looking great, very fast, though buyers have inherent sub-conscious suspicions about the simplicity of the front page.

Personally, i don't care, i just see it as a search engine, and use it as a research tool, regarding my own user status and consumer - i go by word of mouth, via people here and also contacts beyond WebmasterWorld.

Question: do you think G has a creditability problem in promoting Ecomm from listed sites or not?

Netizen

12:15 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am not quite sure what you are getting at here... Google's simple interface is what help make it popular - rather than having to wade through tons of junk on a page just to find the search box.

Are you saying people click less on Adwords ads than ads on Yahoo and MSN?

Are you saying people trust sites that they found via Google less than sites they have found through Yahoo and MSN?

I personally think Google has a good brand awareness and Joe Public respects Google and the sites it "promotes" on it's SERPs

robertito62

12:22 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> ...creditability problem in promoting Ecomm...?

Simplicity transpires honesty. Why would their design conflict with promoting ecomm?

chiyo

12:40 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Simplicity and elegance should not cause credibility problems. However ive always been a bit put off by that logo which reminds me of a stick of Blackpool candy. BEcuase of that mainly, for me as a consumer, Google does sometimes convey a feeling of childishness and being less than serious, which may carry over its advertisers as well. At the same time, other elements of it's brand overcomes the negative impression of the brand from the logo alone - at least for me...

bwelford

12:53 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think the Google front page is exactly right. You can rapidly figure it out and get what you want. As noted, this is a large factor in its popular success.

The only credibility problem I have is that little line at the bottom, that seems to be frozen in time:

©2003 Google - Searching 3,083,324,652 web pages

It's clearly no longer true. Ah well, perhaps it's left there for those who like to point out deliberate typos.

Barry Welford

eztrip

1:29 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Doesn't google hand out the majority of all web referrals done from end user web searching by a large margin? If so then how can it be possible that the interface isn't working. Clearly it's irrelevant or else it's working.

Also AdWords is one of the most popular PPC options out there. If it didn't drive traffic nobody would pay for it.

ciml

7:26 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> could a 10 year old have designed it!

A 10 year old could use it; or a 60 year old; or anyone in between. I think people like the ease of use and I don't think it harms credibility.

The impression I get is that certain types of products convert better from search portals that people don't choose. In my view, if you connect with ISP X and search with ISP X, you'll just buy things. Is it too simple to assume that these are the same people who buy the most advertised form of cola/furniture/music? That's how I tend to see it.

Google delivers very well when it comes to high value products. For example, an intangible and hard to comprehend, six figure (sterling) product I know of wouldn't sell easily to MSN search users but converts well on Google.

SuzyUK

8:03 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No.. IMHO, it's what has helped to make Google what it is today!

great foresight, great risk..who knows, but if it ain't broke don't fix it comes to mind. And don't forget people here are are not your average critic, everyone I've recommended to use Google as search tool (yes some people still don't know how to search for stuff..), think it's 'b****y' amazing, but then they didn't even know it existed before yesterday!

I still remember when I first found it, I didn't know why I liked it, but I now know it's because it's not a portal, i.e. it's not cluttered, if I want to find something I don't want to to have to "search for the search box"..

Suzy

Chndru

8:13 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hmm..just on hind sight, currently there are 5 tabs.
where will they hang the tabs, once its services increases? like froogle, blogs, etc?

Yidaki

8:22 pm on Aug 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>for me as a consumer, Google does sometimes convey a feeling of childishness

That's been the first reason for me why i liked it and it still is a very important reason for me. It's like the thing with using apple - it feels sometimes childish but it's soo much fun and refreshing compared to the grey rest.

>being less than serious, which may carry over its advertisers as well.

Probably but all that advertisers want if they buy adds, is targeted visitors, clicks that convert well. That's what they get with google. And the funny thing is (which might make Sergey and Larry laugh the whole day long) is that ALLTHOUGH they run a childish looking start page, they make more bucks than many of the highly professional looking, perfectly advertisers friendly, service, graphics and design overloaded search engines. That's just too cool, imho.

Can't see any problem with this minimal design. They don't have to attract advertisers but customers.

Chndru

1:57 pm on Aug 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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They don't have to attract advertisers but customers.

Right on!

jsinger

5:34 pm on Aug 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What I object to is the "I'm feeling lucky" button. I thought it had something to do with gambling until recently.
You do see a lot of casino related links on SEs.

When I search, the last thing I want is randomness or luck.

Anyone else have a comment?

How many of you understand that button?

dingman

5:52 pm on Aug 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How many of you understand that button?

I understand it perfectly. With an SE whose results are consistently what I'm looking for, it's quite useful, and I use it. It wouldn't work if I didn't know that I had an excellent chance of finding what I was looking for at the top, but they're good enough that it's useful.

One thing I've noticed in listening to user feedback on my pet site is that reducing the number of clicks is something people really appreciate. I add new bells, whistles, features, etc - and nobody notices enough to comment. I add a simple front-page link to a popular internal portion of the most used section of the site, and ~40% of the users thank me personally. (Small user base. I doubt Brett would enjoy it if 40% of us all stickied him at once!)

The "I'm Feeling Lucky" button takes out a click, so it wins.

francesca

7:08 pm on Aug 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree that the simple design of Google is one reason that made it so popular because the users are not oeverwhelmed with other things that they are not interested in.

Credibility also has a lot to do with brand recognition. Google is highly recognized company so I don't think the simple design creates credibility problems.

tedster

7:55 pm on Aug 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The child-like quality of the logo also imparts a sense of fun - something many grown-ups have despaired of. Even the word "grown-up" seems to be somewhat synonymous with "serious".

The web has brought a sense of fun back into adult life (just think of all those chain email jokes) - and I think the calculated risk of the Google logo was a major coup. In fact, I try to get the stuffiness out of my client's web plans as much as they will tolerate.

deejay

9:16 pm on Aug 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From a buyer perspective, I far prefer the Google homepage to other sites. That white page simplicity to me comes across as neutrality.. impartiality.

"We're here to help you search- that's all; not to get you to look at our ads or sway you towards the people who pay us money."

You get the clear impression that search is their primary focus, not a secondary focus or a hook to get you to the site.

jsinger

9:20 pm on Aug 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Tedster: I think Google needs to add a Mission Statement and Terms and Conditions of use.

TheDoctor

1:57 am on Aug 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think Google needs to add a Mission Statement and Terms and Conditions of use

Agreed. And they should ban such frivolous uses as Googlewhacking.

pbreit

11:12 pm on Aug 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Is suspect that since Google's usage is so broad, especially now with AdSense ads showing up everywhere, that click-throughs are of lower quality.

tolachi

3:15 am on Aug 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I actually think the original post had an interesting point. I think people feel safer/more trusting when something is associated with a lot of other images they trust/are familiar with, and google doesn't necessarily have that.

I don't think the object was to comment on it as search portal, where it is undeniably successful.