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Is my new domain a waste of money?

registered without checking history

         

giveawayrooms

10:49 am on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I feel like a bit of a fool today - I have been looking for a nice domain name for a magazine affiliate site I wanted to set up - I got so excited when I found a great name that was available, I just registered it without thinking.

I hope you will allow me to post the URL - since the domain is not active, and I can't really ask the question if you don't know the details.

The name I just registered is ..
<snip>

However I have just checked on archive.org - it seems that in october 2001 in consisted of a page of links to other magazine domains - and has a link at the bottom to 'links for all'

Has this domain been dumped as worthless following a google ban?

Is there any point in starting to develop it?

What would you do?

[edited by: NFFC at 11:26 am (utc) on Nov. 2, 2002]
[edit reason] No url's please [/edit]

mack

11:11 am on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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When you look at the site on orchive.org did they apear to be doing anything that could have got them banned?

It is possible they have moved their site onto another domain. Copy a small paragraph of text from the site on archive.org and do a google search for it. If you get a result that means the origional site is still on the go using another domain. If this is so then there must be a reason for them to drop the domain you now have.

giveawayrooms

2:46 pm on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks to woz for the sticky

Yes - there are identical pages out there - several sites with identical content.

the cache of my domain from 12 months ago show a links to you logo - there was a links page on the domain from this site which is obviously a links farm

the people who owned my domain have several identical sites - they all still have a link pointing to my domain too - the only crumb of comfort is that none of them have been hit with a zero page rank.

The cache of my domain showed it had PR3 last october - that is the only time it is logged at archive.org

Damn - I feel stupid - is there any chance that it could be OK if it hasn't been given PR0

I'm thinking the best thing would be to find a free host and put up a single page - I don't want to invest any time or money on building a site on it - then see what happens.

If I can get the original owners to remove all connection with it - and if google gives me page rank - would it be OK to use the domain.

When would you reach a stage that you felt 'safe' to do something with it?

Macguru

2:55 pm on Nov 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>is there any chance that it could be OK if it hasn't been given PR0

Very slim chances, unfortunatly.

>>I don't want to invest any time or money on building a site on it

Very smart move. A lot more expensive than domain registration alone.

>>When would you reach a stage that you felt 'safe' to do something with it?

I would keep the domain name and advise Google that you are the new owner via registered mail. Request that potential penality be lifted. Dont bother to contact previous owner.
This can be a long process before you get an awswer, but worth it if the domain name is good. You can start building your content during the process.

I wonder how long is the black list...

giveawayrooms

8:53 am on Nov 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Further to this ...

I have learned my lesson now about checking domains out BEFORE buying them - but can anyone offer any advice about how to check - other than archive.org

I have checked a couple of other domains out at archive.org - and these show now record - but there are circumstances where a site will not be indexed by them - the owner can also ask to be removed from the record.

I've seen other people mention that there are other sources online to identify blacklisted domains - I've hunted all over google but can't find anything.

The next time I buy a domain I want to be 100% sure it's clean!

chiyo

9:15 am on Nov 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I would agree with macguru. Send a letter. Email google, may not work but if it does its great.

Then robot.txt it all our for 3 months if you can wait , and wait 2 or 3 monthly update cycles for the anal irrigation while you set it up with new content. I think some people have been known to lose penalties if its in not idexed for an extended period.

Thats of course if you can wait, but i think it's worth it.

Then when you take off the robots.txt make sure you have a prominant note above the fold saying the site is under new owenership and you have no relationship with the previous owners. ..just for the google manual check if it happens...