There seems to be conflictng information about this. I've been wanting this one for a long time so I'm on the edge of my seat.
Any light you mingt have to shed on this would be much appreciated...
Unless you have drop requests at every possible source don't count yourself in.
Unless you have drop requests at every possible source don't count yourself in
Thanks for the reply, but I guess don't understand what this part means.
Are you saying that even with a backorder request in that it's unlikely that I'll be able to get it? If so, why would this be? I don't imagine anyone else would have backordered it as no one else is in a position to understand why it's about to become very vauluble.
How soon do domains that enter the pending delete period take to become open to registration?
Thanks
How soon do domains that enter the pending delete period take to become open to registration?
Almost never!
As soon as a domain (that's any good) gets "deleted," it usually gets immediately gobbled up by the "backorder" processes run by the registry operator or their cohorts.
If the domain is a "closed drop" - then only 1 registrar is going to grap it - usually the original registrar, but sometimes SnapNames - and in that case you may/will find that your backorder was only an admission ticket to an auction.
Read the terms of service and service descriptions at the various backorder firms. That will give you a more in depth view.
First, the domain name's entered the pending delete period, the point of no return. It'll stay that way for 5 days from its last updated date.
Next, the Registry will release it on the 6th day after that. When that happens, everyone will use all means possible to grab the name before anyone else does.
Scripts, backordering services, even stay up for 24-36 hours with coffee. :)
When you sign up for a backorder service, they'll at least try to grab the name for you. No one can give a 100% guarantee they'll grab it, but they will try.
Depending on how they work, they may give it to the first person who backordered it (or if only one party reserved for it), or force an auction war if more than 1 party did the reservation. That's why WebWork suggested you read the fine prints so you'll know how they'll go about it.
Bottom line: there's no 100% guarantee you'll grab the name you want. But at least you can try to cover as many bases as possible to boost your chances of getting it before others do.
Clear?
I've been working on a probability based algorithm to identify these domains and registrants. {1} Check in the Wayback Machine (http://www.archive.org) to see if the domain in question has had a website up to the point it expired. If it did not have a website, then it might be a point in its favour of it being a quick flip registration. However it is all very much an outside chance.
Regards...jmcc
{1} My main work is publishing reports on domain/hoster statistics in com/net/org/biz/info/ie and it involves monitoring all registrations in the above TLDs.
[edited by: jmccormac at 4:16 am (utc) on Dec. 4, 2005]
Thanks for the input.
Would this be one of the companies that gobble up domains in order to put them on auction or use the in house drop catch programs?
Get out the old credit card and register your interest now, with SN.
My bid with Snapnames is the minimun $60 USD. If say, someone places a bid of $61, will I get an opportunity to raise or will I just quielty lose the domain? Is the bidding totally blind?
Their polices aren't too clear. As of yet, I didn't even get a confirmation email for my backorder.
Sorry for so many questions, I've never aquired a domain name in this way. Usually I either register them outright or pay a king's ransom <snip>.
[edited by: Webwork at 4:09 am (utc) on Dec. 7, 2005]
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Sorry for so many questions
Not your fault, the whole system's a Kafka-esque maze of overcomplicated bureaucracy and changing policies, with the 'extra sauce' of constant technical, commercial and political infighting. (IMHO)
We've got to the point now where we don't expect our customers to understand it, we just do our best to guide them through it.
best, a.
I wanted to take the opportunity to thank you all very much for your input. To make a long story short, I got it. Thought it's sure not to earn as well as the million dollar homepage, I think it will definately make this Christmas very merry to be sure...
As a side note for those in a similar situation, it was a very muddled process that was difficult to navigate and even more difficult to get sound feedback from the players involved probably becuase they don't well understand it themselves. I clicked through Network Solutions to make the backorder at Snapnames and the domain ended up at mydomain.com.
...now to complete the hat trick and transfer it home to Godaddy.
Thanks again!
