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Domain parking lander-pages versus minisites:

Why would one work better (be more profitable) than the other?

         

4css

9:09 pm on Aug 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The few domains that I have purchased the place offers a one page site set up for each domain that you purchase, as well as the option of choosing a blog instead of the site.

Am I better of using this service as I can place adsense and learn about affiliates and keywords and seo? Or am I better of using a parking service of which I have been approved at 3.

Any guidance would be appreciated, and links to learning information would be also prefered and appreciated.

I learn by doing, not by having someone do for me ;)

Thanks in advance.

4~css

trader

4:18 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Unless I am missing something with your post, you can only put your Adsense or YPN or your own developed sites, not on parking firm pages or on the free domain registrar parked sites. I am somewhat inexperienced with parking but not Adsense which I have been using for more than 3-yrs.

As far as which is best, parking or Adsense, with some very small tests I am now running it appears parked pages have a significantly higher CTR than Adsense/YPN websites. However, my testing is too new and limited to compare the overall income or EPC at this time.

Can anyone else give opinions on that?

4css

4:34 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It is a one page site offered by the domain company, you can choose this method or chooose to set up a blog.

In actuality it isn't a parked domain page as other then them using it now and it is parked through them it would have some content on it.

btw trader, thank you for your reply, its greatly appreciated. And any information you can offer for learning would also be more then appreciated.

4css

6:03 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Trader,
I was thinking about your post and maybe I did not explain this too well at first.

My question is a two part one. Basically is domiain parking better then setting up a one page site, to start, with information, adsense, etc..

When I refer to parking I am refering to those parkers who set up your domain and optimize it.

So, is it better that I do a one page web site, and learn how to do this on my own? Or let the parking service, who knows what they are doing. (of which I was accepted at 3 services)

Or do this myself through my domain purchasing company who offers a one site page hosting with the purchase of each domain. And allows you to develop that one page?

I hope this is more clear then my original posting. Sorry if this is confusing as I am just learning all of this. Lots of new terms and things etc.. ;)

trader

10:31 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not really in a position to answer that (as earlier stated) not experienced with parking, only with developed sites and Adsense/YPN.

The reason we are looking into parked pages is thinking about taking down some poor performing Adsense/YPN small websites and converting them to parked sites at places like Fabulous or Trafficz.

A reason we are thinking of doing that (already done recently to a small degree with 4 sites) is the fact it seems the harder we work, and more time spent, and more traffic or se ranking we get the tougher it becomes to make more money, almost like an inverse relationship.

However, we are still quite happy with YPN and Adsense overall which are excellent programs, it's just that we wanted to experiment with parking services on underperforming or poorly used domains. The experiment may easily result in less performance instead of more.

Anyone here experienced with both?

4css

11:56 pm on Aug 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Trader, once again, thank you so much for your reply, I do appreciate it greatly.

I wasn't sure if I had explained it too well which is why I had reposted it to you, since you had answered me.

thanks!

4css

12:15 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Trader,
A reason we are thinking of doing that (already done recently to a small degree with 4 sites) is the fact it seems the harder we work, and more time spent, and more traffic or se ranking we get the tougher it becomes to make more money, almost like an inverse relationship.

Maybe without realizing it you have answered my question for me anyhow! ;)

Since time is limited with what I am working with right now, the parking services just might be better for now. I ran across another one last night just searching a few things that I am going to see if they accept me. The looked a tiny bit better then some of those I have already been to.

Take care Trader, and I wish you the best in what you do!
4~CSS!

trader

4:38 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Starting with parking is likely the best move and then then go with a small developed site after you see if it has traffic and the keywords which are working well.

P.S. Though to park or not park is an important subject, unfortunately, you and I are the only 2 members here who are participating. Not sure why :(

4css

5:33 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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P.S. Though to park or not park is an important subject, unfortunately, you and I are the only 2 members here who are participating. Not sure why sad

You did post, and I am thankful for that.

I don't wish to question those who don't answer as I know this is a big area to play in. And even though I say I only have a few, that doesn't mean that those who don't know me will know that.

Just as those who do know me, know I am a total newbie in all of this and reading up on this is very interesting (though not as interesting as css is ;) )

If that makes any sense?

So, once more I totally thank you for your kindness in posting in this thread for me and not having it disappear into the 1's posting cemetary. ;)

trader

7:39 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You are welcome. One of the problems with forums is sometimes there is very little active participation by the majority of members. Most are unfortunately merely lurking and rarely contribute anything.

Come to think of it, that is a reason I am thinking of cutting way back on my own participation at various forums. Sometimes my posts and threads at other places in particular also get little if any feedback :(

Webwork

9:32 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've been tracking this debate for awhile in forums and in personal dialogue with domainers.

The problem is that most domainers are just that: Domainers, not developers. The dataset for comparision is not that great. Domainers like the easy money that comes from the park 'em and watch the money roll in model.

Not a bad model. Just not the model for most people who have a few domain names. Unless you hold the cream of domains you will likely have to get up into the 1000s of domains to make parking a significant source of income.

IF you look at the AdSense forum you may get the impression that development is a good idea. Otherwise there wouldn't be an Adsense forum as lively as ours.

My guess is that, at the end of the day, intelligent development will always be more profitable, but I can't say that from any depth of experience. I can tell you from limited experience that domains where you are the end user / beneficiary of the traffic can be very profitable.

Here's the rub of type-in traffic: A type-in visitor is a 1 time thing, here once and likely gone forever. No referrals. No coming back. No linking, Trafic exhausted in a single round trip.

Experiment. Just be careful about how you both run and interpret the experimental data.

4css

10:15 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Experiment. Just be careful about how you both run and interpret the experimental data.

Oh, I study big time all the time. And learn as much as my little brain can soak in. Google search and I are great friends!

Thank you also webwork, your opinions, and guidance are always valued, as you are well aware of.

Someone once told me to try to Diversify (I think it might have been you Webwork?). I suppose that means not to put all my learning and knowledge in the same basket (or the same section of web things that I have focused on)

Trader, I'm sure that people value your answers as well. I know I truly appreciate your imput in here.

Pedent

3:04 pm on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As most people are staying quiet, here's my one-cent's worth (I'll up the price of my opinion to 2 cents when Google start sending me Christmas presents):

Three advantages of parking are that it's very easy to set up, that through a parking company you'll have ready access to a large number of advertisers (remember, you can't just slap AdSense on a domain without developing it), and that you'll generally get a pretty decent CTR on ads.

The drawbacks are significant, though. First, the parking company is an extra party taking its cut of the revenue generated by the site. Second, and more importantly, you're limited in how much traffic you can generate by the quality of the domain. You won't get search engine traffic, repeat visitors, or natural links from related sites; you're reliant on type-in and, if there's been a previous site there, residual traffic.

If you develop a site, you get the type-in and residual traffic, but can also harness other sources of visitors. Design the site carefully, and you won't lose out too much in CTR, so the extra traffic should more than compensate you for any loss there. Plus, you don't have to share your money with the parking company. Therefore, in my view, if you have the time and the ability, you'll generally be better off developing your domains. Until you can get a site up, park them, but long term you want people flooding to your site from search engines and other sources, which will only happen if you have content.

Anyone want to make the case for parking?

MamaDawg

4:08 pm on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Anyone want to make the case for parking?

I won't unconditionally make a case for parking - I agree that developing is USUALLY better ...

But let's say you have a domain name which gets good type-in traffic in a high-paying, high competition industry - it could take a huge amount of time and effort to get anywhere in the SERPS, be prohibitively expensive to advertise, difficult to get quality links... Furthermore, (depending on WHICH high-paying industry we're talking about) you may not be able to run adsense/YPN on the site so you could only monetize through affiliate conversions.

You could take that same name, park it today with the most advantageous parking provider you can find and do very well with it...

4css

6:07 pm on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks MamaDawg and Pedent for replying, your information is very valuable to me.

I know I have a ton to learn out of my normal range of learning in regards to css etc.. but I am willing to learn as much as it takes for me to get to my goal of working. ;)

Pedent, lol, I hope google sends you a christmas present this year ;)