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You can't Get Expired Domains Anymore

Network Solutions is grabbing all Pending Deletes

         

bhartzer

3:17 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Over the weekend, Network Solutions has made a drastic change in their policies; they're now snatching up all domains that appear on the Pending Delete list--even if it is registered through another registrar.

It appears that if a domain name is on the Pending Delete list, Network Solutions is somehow inheriting it, changing the status and expiration date to a year from now.

This may be their attempt to get ready for the WLS list, but forget about getting an expired domain anymore. You cannot back-order one because you just won't get it.

Over the weekend I was watching several hundred domain names that had a status of "pending delete" and now ALL of them are now registered through Network Solutions, with an expiration date of next year.

Expired domains and the hopes of registering domain names with good PageRank, links, and traffic coming to it is over, folks. Network Solutions has now made it a reality.

claus

3:22 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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****?! is this true? how can they do this? which tld's are concerned?

Could you post a little more info please?

/claus

bhartzer

3:31 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had over 130 back-orders on domains that were on the pending delete list over the weekend. I didn't get even one of them (not even a bad one). All of them suddently are now registered through Network Solutions or listed under the sponsoring registrar of R48-LROR (which I'm pretty sure is Network Solutions).

All of these domains are expiring this time next year (all of a sudden).

If you have any doubt, just go try to put a back order on any domain name that's going to expire today. Tomorrow it will have been registered with Network Solutions.

It appears that those companies that allow you to put a back-order on a domain name are now going to be out of business.

BlueSky

3:45 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why don't you file a complaint with ICANN since they're supposed to oversee VeriSign. I wish they would just get rid of that company and give the business to someone else.

claus

3:53 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So, it's just .com and .net then? Verisign again, i see... Somebody stop this company please...

bhartzer

4:00 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's actually .com, .net and .org domain names that are on Pending Delete. Now all of them are being snatched up by NetSol.

claus

4:06 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't get it... it can hardly be *all* of them, can it? what am i missing? some of these domains are bound to be registered originally with other registrars than NS, how does NS get their hand on them before anyone else? Anyone got a clue/pointer/knowledge/guess?

BlueSky

4:11 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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VeriSign runs the overall whois database. They can easily grab any expiring domain they want. What makes you think R48-LROR is them too?

bhartzer

4:16 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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They're getting their hands on these domains because Network Solutions is really the "owner" of the master pool of pending deletes. Something is happening with all of the Pending Deletes now. If you look up anything(via whois) on the list, you'll see R848-LROR on all the pending deletes. All of these pending deletes now have dates of 2004, and they're now on Client Hold.

There's something weird going on.

BlueSky

4:18 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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According to this site here: [orgtransition.info...]
R48-LROR is Intercosmos Media Group Inc. which registers domains under directNIC.

They aren't the same as NetSol: [prweb.com...]

4crests

4:27 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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They are Intercosmos media group. Their website is directNic.com

4crests

4:30 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Intercosmos media group also auctions domains at domainapex.com

skipfactor

4:35 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There's something weird going on.

Look for SiteFinder on these domains in a matter of days.

bhartzer

4:46 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What's even weirder? If you look at any of the domains on the Pending delete list you'll see that the expiration date is some time in 2004. There's something going on.

tdierks

11:28 pm on Oct 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm glad I didn't see this earlier today, as it would have given me a heart attack.

Fortunately, Pool.com grabbed up the .com domain name I'd been waiting for for several months without any trouble.

So it's not all domains, anyway.

Salsa

3:08 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This problem sounds familiar to me. So it isn't exactly new, and may not be the end of the world as we know it.

I had backordered two excellent .com domains that were pending delete back in April. I had kept up a subscription on one of them for two years, so I don't have to tell you how I felt when during the pending delete stage the old owners' contact info disappeared, but Network Solutions remained listed as the registrar, AND the expiration date was changed to 2004.

I wrote to the backorder house and asked what was up. A Tech replied that the phenomenon was something that they hadn't seen before and he'd check into it. I'm not certain what he found out, though, because a few days later both domains were transferred to me.

I hope you have the same good fortune.

bakedjake

3:23 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Folks, I hate to say it, but there has to be something else going on.

This would have been widely publicized by now (Thursday) if this was really the case. There are a lot of people that watch things like this from a lot of angles.

Are you sure the domain wasn't just grabbed by a snap-up service that managed to get it before yours? As BlueSky mentioned, it looks like /someone/ besides NetSol got it (but might have registered it through NetSol).

Also, it could just be NetSol prepping the domain for delete. I've seen weird behavior like this before right before a domain is dropped for good.

Did you call them and ask them about it? That's what I would do, first, before panicking.

Salsa

5:38 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That another backorder service might have gotten there first doesn't seem a likely explanation for ALL 130+ names. Besides, if the experience is the same as mine was (and it sounds like it is) whois isn't listing any contact info for the names, just NetSol as the registrar, so they're not currently registered to anyone.

My guess is that it's just some weird new part of the prepping for deletion process like bakedjake suggested.

I'm paranoid enough, however, to imagine that someone on the inside scans the list to see what high-value names it contains before pushing the delete button. In my experience, my higher-value names always took longer to become available after expiration and longer to transfer after owned, so someone must be paying attention.

I'd absolutely contact the powers that be. It might help the guy with his finger on the delete button to do the right thing.

cabbie

6:32 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hmm I am glad I didn't come across this before.
Netsol have always extended the registration of the domains they held by 12 months .They would still release the name and then give themselves a credit for it.
I have still been winning domains through Pool and namewinner so I have not noticed anything.Maybe they are extending the registration now of all domains held by different registrars rather than just the ones registed with them.
MY 2cts