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Comparing Whois Information To Find Like Owners

         

EliteWeb

11:24 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Greetings WebmasterWorld!

Are there any tools or ways to find information on relivent domains. Lets say I want to find all the domains with the billing address for a city, state? Or the owner name, or address, or email or phone number or name servers and so forth.

SEGuru2

12:04 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have not seen that yet.

I just opened my expired domains site and kinda did some poking around and research to see what people wanted in displayed results from domain research. Of course, expired is the first and formost thing, engine listing (if it exitsts such as Google, Yahoo, etc.), link pop, TradeMark Search/Reference, Internet Archive (WayBack Machine).

Never would I have thought that users would want to see displayed and sorted results by address or locale!

Kinda curious, is this just for targeting specific regions or like sites?

Lisa

12:05 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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yeah, I have a private system. But I know of no publicly available systems like what you describe. It would take downloading every whois record that exists. Keeping all the whois records current. Parsing all the records. Just lots and lots of work.

twoline

12:06 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't think anything like this really exists. You used to be able to search by company name on Network Solutions WHOIS, but you can't do it anymore. The closest this is to search by NIC handle, but that only works if the domains were all registered thru Network Solutions registrar. And because NS is so expensive, many people have transferred their domains to other registrars that don't share the same NIC handle.

EliteWeb

12:07 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I see this being used to target specifically for advertising by everyone else. However my reasoning behing wanting to do it is to see if this guy I know has many other sites. I found one site of mine copied because of a flaw -- he linked to one of my images. I want to know what domain name he owns by searching for NS information or by locallity.

Does a program exist to deal with this data? Hmm if not I see someone doing this shortly. Think if you could start calling people in a certain city for whatever reason.. I see power behind that.

SEGuru2

12:13 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Interesting, if this were available, would this be something that you would use regularly?

EliteWeb

12:25 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think it's something that could make a lot of money :D If it doesnt exist <cough> royalties from this point on </cough> it should ;) Id use this a lot actually I like researching companies and people.

SEGuru2

12:26 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ya know, thinking about it...we check WHOIS data and have the ability to store a variety of info...its just what do we need to to sort and display? Simple enough...but wonder if its something that people would actually use.

SEGuru2

12:28 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok, I'll talk to the programmers and see what they think, see if it makes sense. Anyone curious about getting at that kind of data?

EliteWeb

12:30 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You'd need a lot of whois data from all the registrars, dont know how all that works but I see this as a tool used for Research and also marketting, cough... :D

robertito62

11:46 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"...to see if this guy I know has many other sites..."

It is my understanding WHOIS data can be forged. You'll never know how many domains one person controls. Even if you sort through all the available information.

pixel_juice

11:49 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It is my understanding WHOIS data can be forged.

THis is true, but someone forging whois data is playing a whole different ball game tothe sort of stuff I would want to look up with this tool.

SEGuru2 - add me to your potential user base :)

Mike12345

12:22 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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you can use a tool to examine business realtionships on the web, from anacubis, then check out whois innformation and compare the two.

Jenstar

1:37 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You can add me to your list too :) I would use this tool whenever I found a new case of copyright infringement - if I could quickly search by their name to see what other domains they owned, it would make it much easier to see if they simply transfered the infringing content to another domain, or if they have it on any other sites.

As it is, a recent infringer's husband inadvertantly let it slip that they had bought numerous other domains for the same purpose, and if I could have just searched by name, I'd know which domains to keep my eye on. By guessing, I have found two of them, but I know there are at least two others, and probably more since then.

SEGuru2

5:48 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wow, ok so theres some interest here.

My guys have been so busy finishing up adding Google expireds to the site that they have been unable to come up for air in the last 2 days.

Let me try and get one of them for some undivided attention and see if this makes sense technically.

I don't see possibilities for complete cross ref by Company Name as many people use different company names for anonymity purposes.

But we will brainstorm and see what we can come up with.

jmccormac

12:48 am on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Technically it is feasible. I can think of a few tla organisations that would already have systems like this in place. However doing this on a commercial scale would require a lot of initial work. But when it is up and running, the day to day operation would not be that difficult. Given that domains movements typically have a lot of latency, the bulk of the activity is devoted to identifying domains in transit.

I've already created an implementation for Irish registered/owned domains on what is really just a desktop spec computer. It does involve bringing together a lot of normally disparate data sources. But approaching it from a Global perspective (ie trying to do everything at once) gives the impression of it being an impossible problem. It looks like the project will just have to take one country at a time. Ireland was easy since it has a miniscule internet footprint. The UK may be a bit more difficult. I don't want to even consider the USA without some LD50 coffee close at hand. :)

Regards...jmcc