acquiring expired domains

[scorpion]

Which service in your opinion is better for acquiring potential expired domains: namewinner or snapnames? The first is basically a free auction system, the latter is $69 per name..

any other services you would rate in the top 3?

[SEO practioner]

Scorpion

Wichever route you take, just make sure to check at Archive.org BEFORE you register what you think is a great name for a bargain price.

The reason why we say that is often, some old domains have expired because their previous owners spammed the heck out of the engines and were banned.

Sadly, if you end up the new owner of such a domain name, your new site will get penalized as well. I guess you could always ask Google Guy to unban it afterwards, but it sure sounds like a lot of trouble for me.

Better be safe than sorry I think

SEO

[scorpion]

are you saying the ip you host it on will be banned? That would be horrible if you host many sites on one ip and most are reputable...

[Hunter]

scorpion, when you want a name, hedge your bets (use as many services as possible).

[scorpion]

i have to same namewinner sucks. I go to register this expired domain at 9:55 the day it drops, I am the highest bidder only to find out on the same day some guy in Australia got it. So much for the best technology. Next time I will try snapnames! And it was a good one too, damn.

[richardb]

Folks

Any rule of thumb as to how long it takes to "unban" a DN, assuming the DN has been banned?

TIA

Rich

[toolman]

>>>>Any rule of thumb as to how long it takes to "unban" a DN

That's a good question for GoogleGuy. The dude from Google at the conference did say something about automatic reinclusion but I wasn't really listening all that close so maybe GoogleGuy could elaborate for us here.

[ButtLuke]

Where you click at archive.org to see if a domain is banned?

[nativenewyorker]

SEO_Practitioner said:

some old domains have expired because their previous owners spammed the heck out of the engines and were banned.

Sadly, if you end up the new owner of such a domain name, your new site will get penalized as well.

GoogleGuy has actually said recently that acquiring a domain for PR purposes was a bad idea. PR will be reset for expired domains regardless of existing incoming links to the domain.

GoogleGuy's Update on Expired Domains [webmasterworld.com]

While what you say may have been true up until recently, the rules have now changed at Google (the primary search engine that matters). The other SEs may not be far behind.

Ted