How to get free listings in MSN?

[cowcool]

Folks,
How to get free listings in MSN?. I have a lot of pages and want them to be spidred and included in MSN's SERPS.

Thx,
Andy

[JamesR]

The only free listings I have in MSN is due to sites being highly linked to. Inktomi spidered them and included them in their core database. Since MSN uses Inktomi, the sites are in. Other than that, I don't know many ways to get in for free.

[fathom]

[submitit.bcentral.com...]

However, I've never been able to confirm if a listing actually occurred via this route.

[arc_light]

In addition to Inktomi there's also Zeal.com, which provides free listings to noncommercial sites.

[EliteWeb]

I always submit to the URL fathom mentioned and I get hits from their engines so I think it works :)

[Macguru]

I got a many of them included for free, but all written in French. I guess msm is aware of some market laws...

[Grumpus]

According to the "Zeal" guidelines, a deep page on a site that contains non-commercial content can be listed for free so long as there's no mention of commercial content in the description and the page itself focuses on a non-commercial idea.

In other words, you MIGHT be able to get an SEO site listed for free if you were to write a good article giving tips or a good explaination of page rank or something along those lines. Then, of course, you'd have to get them to buy your service once you told them how to do it for free, but it could be worth exploring.

[sparrow]

fathom, I can confirm that for you.
NOT!
I don't think that bCentral is worth the money. Well it wasn't worth my money.

[fathom]

Hi Sparrow,

I wouldn't pay either.

The free submission is at the page bottom.

Personally, I only submit to DMOZ, and let the Internet do the rest.

[cowcool]

I have a site , it has 8 pages listed in MSN. What I am going to do now is create a site map contains links to all pages in my site (hundreds of them). Will MSN index all of the pages?.

[satanclaus]

Zeal is worth the time.

[rfgdxm1]

>Zeal is worth the time.

I'm now #1 at msn.com on three key single word searches because of Zeal. It does have advantages to being listed. ;)

[dcheney]

I think I also got into MSN via Zeal (at least I submitted to Zeal - and not to MSN - but now getting MSN hits).