joined:Apr 3, 2003
There a number of ways to get listed in DMOZ. The set it and forget it method that a handful of public editors have been repeating for over a decade in public forums does not work, for obvious reasons.
Fact: DMOZ is, unfortunately, still a very economical and easy way to throw your site a large number of free backlinks. It isn't the only way, for sure, however compensating for not being listed to compete with a competitor just means you have to work that much harder.
It is therefore in your best interests to get listed.
DMOZ "may" have corrupt editors. I know they probably did in the past, but now it is primarily a clique. You have a set number of them that frequent 'their support forum', and have for a large number of years, spouting the same gibberish that they do in here: don't ask about your site, we are volunteers so please cry for us, once you submit it that's the best you can do, etc.
All of that is hogwash.
Method one:Guilt an editor
If you are lucky enough to have access to an editor of your category, take the time to check the category in question and edit it for them. Send them a list of sites that are no longer up, mainly, and maybe ones with redirects to different URLs. Do that, and in a calculated manner include at the bottom of your email something diplomatic mentioning your site. Basically, you're guilting them into it.
Well, times have changed now and you can't reach most editors, and even if you do, they tend to not care or are rude so this method is more risky. Another problem is you may send it, but they won't receive it because they are no longer active or their email no longer works.
Caveat? You have divulged that a domain you have wants to be listed in DMOZ. You can never, ever list it from that point forward if it gets blacklisted, which they do on a whim.
Method two: Fake an editor account
I can't get too much into this, but overall don't listen to anything they say - don't divulge the sites you are associated with, for sure, which is one thing they repeatedly suggest. If you use a proxy service to sign up with a new browser (use firefox or chrome or ie, whichever one you don't regularly use) there is no way for them to track you. Suggest sites in the category, make up a totally new personality, and you'll probably get approved.
The main advantage of this method is you can do it over and over and eventually you'll succeed, it's just a matter of tenacity. Of course they approve editors at the same pace that they approve sites, meaning at their whim, so you may be waiting a long time before you get approved.
Caveat? None, really. Nothing they can do about it as long as you don't include your domain in the 3 site suggestions they ask for.
Method three: Pay
Now, this is one area I don't have experience with because I've not had the luck of finding an editor that is reasonable enough to let me pay them for their time. However, I have serious issues with it.
Firstly, editors are encouraged to blacklist any sites, owners, even whole IP ranges that attempt to circumvent their clogged system. If you pay someone and they know what domain you want in there, it is very possible they will blacklist not only the domain but every domain on the IP. Once this is done, there is nothing you can do about it.
Secondly, if you pay one of these guys to put it in, it can be removed for any reason, at any time, including a day later, and there is absolutely no accountability. A higher up editor can do this on a whim, a competitor who has access can do it, and you have no recourse. You cannot ask them about specific sites in any avenue UNLESS you are complaining about abuse which helps you notatall.
Caveat? No guarantee at all, your domain is now noticed, possibility of blacklisting much higher.
Some tidbits about DMOZ.
- Once you become an editor, you can check any domain you want to see if it is in queue, if it has been blacklisted, and any notes attached to it. You can be an editor of any category to do this to any domain.
- You will also have access to their forums, which provides you a glimpse of the way their hierarchy works. Very easily can your editor account be shut down or investigated, just on a whim, so it is advisable to lay low once you do become one.
- Assume they track IPs on just about everything, and can blacklist any of them. This includes the IP you submit your application on, the IP of your domain, and the IP of any other domain hosted on your server. There is no rhyme or reason behind this, so it is in your best interests to keep your domain and personal IP completely hidden until you are an editor or guaranteed a listing.
- Submitting your site and forgetting about it is the weakest thing you can do. Visit 'their support forum' or browse these forums to see the poor saps that listened to the parroting and actually spent 4 years waiting. Get down and dirty to get it done.
I read the charter here and nothing I've written is in breach of it since I am not suggesting anything illegal, nor am I (primarily) grieving about DMOZ.
I am also an editor. :-)