Dmoz...?

How long does it usually take for a Dmoz submission

[MajorFm]

How long does it usually take for a Dmoz submission, i don't want to submit again as i don't want to cause any conflicts with my submissions but i submitted my site in september... still no joy...

domain.com is already listed in the correct cat but domain.com/content is another entity all on its own and needs to be in a diffrent catagory.

...also is there anyway to pay for express submission, i don't mind paying!

Please adivse...

[hutcheson]

Sitting on a site is impossible -- ANY editor can review it ANYTIME; hundreds of editors can add it to the correct category (wherever that is.)

Not editing ANY site (whether it was submitted or not) is not abuse. It's always a permitted and socially acceptable action in the ODP. In fact, EVERY single editor non-edits MILLIONS of sites daily. We don't ask why. We don't have TIME to ask why.

Creating multiple "distinct" sites for the same business entity is almost certain to delay or prevent an ODP listing. After all, each of the sites keeps all the others from being unique in the only way that such sites can be unique. And how would we know which one to list? (We CERTAINLY do not and can not consider the submittal an authority on that question!)

[cbpayne]

Funny you should also say that my site was listed on Feb 12. Yeah right, stop blowing smoke up my a$$! Which site? I have over 20 websites! Only two have even been submitted to DMOZ and neither has a listing yet!

The site you asked about at RZ was listed on 12 Feb - unless someone else has the exact same user name there as you are using here. ..... who's blowing smoke?

[MLHmptn]

My sincere apologies cbpayne. I am happy to hear it was finally listed and thank you all for your honest insight. I did not intend to ruffle anyones feathers here but was just voicing my opinion. DMOZ really does need to do something about the length of time it takes for a site review IMHO. My biggest gripe with my own site and the submission was the fact that the category editor was in fact my competition and from my viewpoint (right or wrong) it sure seemed like he was sitting on my site. He is no longer the category editor and I don't have a clue what his username was anymore as this was over a year ago that this correspondence took place. Again, my sincere apologies! Those of you that provide your time to make DMOZ work are truly providing a service to the community, albeit without pay.

My next question is...When is the next DMOZ update? :>~

[podman]

Mike, a lot of editors join ODP, list their own site and one or two others and don't do much else. We don't consider that abuse.

[hutcheson]

Well, we do consider it abuse. But ... it's rather obvious that it's not a significant problem.

How is it obvious? Do the math, mon! 50,000 editors since day 1; 5 million listings since day 1. Even with the one-site wonder boys included, the average editor would be listing 100 sites. Assume, if you will, that 90% of the editors joined with that intent. Well, then 1% of the ODP sites were added unfairly quickly (that's statistical noise), and ... the rest weren't. And the average ACTIVE editor would be adding 10,000 sites, of which, at the very very worst, over 9900 are NOT his own.

Distribute the corruption how you will -- it still comes back to, at worst, 1% of the sites. And, surely, even the most paranoid misanthrope can concede that some editors don't have websites; that some list their own fairly; and so on.

Now, if we could only figure out a way to make sure the SUBMITTALS were better than 90% pure -- let alone 99%!

[martingale]

I joined ODP as an editor years ago, listed my own site, and then, feeling some obligation to pay back DMOZ, went through my category and did as honest a job as I could of reviewing every other site in it. I think I turned that category from a bunch of junk into a useful resource.

The comment about competitors is way off base--your competitors are likely exactly right for the job: who else knows your category better than the people who have sites in it?

My real grip with DMOZ is how slow it is to become editor, or for an editor to get a new category. I would be happy to process lots more sites except I am only editor in one small category that is not that active these days (where my old site is). I've applied to become editor in some topics I'm more interested in, but it seems to take as long to become a DMOZ editor as it takes to submit a site.

[podman]

That's not been my experience - I've often had new category applications processed very quickly, being granted or refused a new category in a matter of hours in some cases.

Refusals always are hard to accept - usually does not seem fair, but if you take lots of deep breaths - wait a week and opne your eyes you might find there were good reasons. One refusal was my clerical mess up, and I reapplied a week later and go it. The others were sloppiness on my part, I had not brought some of my existing categories up to standard.

Its' always good to ask in the forums for others to do a cat check.