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BlueFind not passing PR?

         

bears5122

7:02 pm on Aug 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hate to draw up another Bluefind thread but has anyone ever seen PR boost or a backlink from this directory. There directory is enticing for $40 and such high PR, but I don't think anything is passing. Maybe I'm wrong, but has anyone gotten a backlink or any PR boost from Bluefind?

mosley700

12:50 pm on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Whether or not BlueFind passes PR or not really shouldn't even be a question that enters your mind. If you think of submitting to BlueFind for a PR boost, don't submit.

I submit to many web directories - DMOZ, Yahoo, WowDirectory, Skaffe, ETC - and I've never submitted for the PageRank. A single link from a web directory, no matter what the PR, is not likely to affect your PR. Buy site-wide links if you want PR.

>>Maybe I'm wrong, but has anyone gotten a backlink or any PR boost from Bluefind?

It does show up as a backlink on Google, but that means very little these days.

jenkers

8:00 pm on Aug 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hi,
I've been looking at Bluefind lately as it does in some ways look pretty impressive.

If you check the source there is no reason why the links (the ones that I checked anyway) will not pass PR. Whether that is really worth it or not is another matter, but...as many categories are pretty empty - joining now would mean you'll probably get the best boost from it you could ever possibly get.

I could be very cynical but the lack of content makes me think the Alexa ranking is artificially inflated.

However, if other people can vouch for the level of traffic received then I'm more than happy to stand correccted.

mosley700

12:47 am on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>I could be very cynical but the lack of content makes me think the Alexa ranking is artificially inflated

The purpose of inflating an Alexa rating is usually to make it look more trafficked than it actually is, not less trafficked. I don't know what kind of Alexa ranking you are seeing for BlueFind, but I don't see any other website with the amount of backlinks (400,000 per AllTheWeb) with such an un-impressive Alexa ranking.

10,000,000+ monthly text link and banner impressions from Internet.com network - that alone should have gotten BlueFind a higher Alexa ranking. Add in the advertising on dozens of other websites, many of which are ranked by Alexa in the top 5000, and I'd certainly expect a better Alexa ranking than it currently has.

bears5122

3:02 am on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Many people I've talked to in the Bluefind directory have said they got zero traffic from it.

mosley700

5:01 am on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>Many people I've talked to in the Bluefind directory have said they got zero traffic from it.

Seems you have a very clear agenda, "Bear".

A lot of that depends on keywords used in the submission. I see many people claiming to get respectable amounts of traffic from BlueFind, which is more shocking that people claiming to get no traffic. I would expect most people with a webmasterIQ of over 12 to know that people do not search directories. Google, Yahoo, and other search engines serve that purpose just fine, and 99% of people who submit to web directories do so for the link pop and not for the traffic.

That's why it's surprising to find people reporting in the BlueFind forum that they are getting "an explosion of poeple coming to my site from BlueFind" and "quite a bit of traffic from Bluefind".

stoner3221

10:52 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can vouch for traffic coming from Blue Find. I get more from it then any other directory ranking in the top ten for non-search engine traffic.
He has done a commendable job with it and has sunk a lot of money into assuring it’s success.

EliteWeb

11:04 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have links counting from bluefind. Cant say if its passing pr or not though since most sites have higher pr than bluefind categories do. :)

I dont get many hits really. actually cant say ive seen any but I went on board because it rocks :)

drdsl2000

2:54 am on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We did a submission for a site to Bluefind about 08-01-04. I honestly think its to early to say how the $40.00 investment will work, but I am confident that it was money well spent.

That site lives in a Big Neighborhood as mentioned above, and we want our site associated with that.

I'll post an update after the next dance.

Craigster

foxtunes

7:56 pm on Aug 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've had traffic from the bluefind directory. There are older higher profile directories from which I've received negligible traffic in the last year.

madeqx

1:18 pm on Aug 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi folks,

I'm fairly new to the game of SEO and have a few comments/questions.

mosley700:
you state that

"If you think of submitting to BlueFind for a PR boost, don't submit."

And:

"...and 99% of people who submit to web directories do so for the link pop and not for the traffic."

forgive me if i understand this in the wrong way, but arnt these statements quite conflicting?

I just signed up for review/listing in bluefind, so any comments are very much appreciated :)

mosley700

1:50 pm on Aug 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Link popularity is not the same thing as PageRank. A certain school of SEO believes that the key to gaining credibility with Google is not in buying PageRank, but in getting as many links from as many unique domains/IP ranges as possible, regardless of PageRank.

JuniorOptimizer

1:20 pm on Aug 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The price is now $50. I have submitted 3 different sites in 3 categories and "no traffic" is a very accurate description.

madeqx

1:32 pm on Aug 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Atleast I got my link on a PR7 page. Maybe it's worth it in the long run? who knows

JuniorOptimizer

1:58 pm on Aug 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Every one way link you get is bound to help you in the long run.

mosley700

2:09 pm on Aug 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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JuniorOptimizer,

I never expected people to brag about the traffic they get from BlueFind, but many do. I have given this quite a bit of thought, and my conclusion is that sites are getting traffic simply because of the ratio of searches to sites listed. For each URL listed in the directory, there are 8 searches per day. So the odds are actually stacked in favor of you getting traffic.

But here's the thing. A lot of webmasters, myself included, don't look to directories for traffic. They are seen only as a tool for generating relevant link pop. So a lot of submissions come through with very unimaginative keywords. Not good. :(

Anyway, sticky me the URLs you submitted and I'll take a look at the keywords /description and see if I can't get you to come up for more searches.

Old_Timer

12:20 am on Aug 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't see any evidence that page rank means much. I see sites with low page rank, ranking high for a lot of competitive key words in my industry.

I have not submitted to BlueFind but I will. I just want to make sure the site will get accepted when I submit. I have no problem with their submission fee for a faster review. I want to make sure everything is right on my end. I don't want to pay and then get rejected.

The value to me would be a back link from a directory that has some authority status. I would probably end up on a page with PR2. The category is not highly populated and the rank of that page should rise over time.

I think mosley700 has given some very honest answers to the questions and critisims in this thread.

I would not expect much traffic from any directory. If I got traffic I would consider that a plus. How much traffic does Dmoz produce? Yet everyone wants a link from Dmoz.

I think people who are only advertising based on page rank that is passed may be trying to manuilipate the SERPS. Get a good back link in an appropriate category.

Don't worry about the PR of the page the incoming link is comming from. Be glad that you have a good incoming link. Any incoming link can help.

No one knows how Google figures page rank, and right now no one knows how much importance Google is giving to page rank.

A good back link may not help but it will never hurt. In looking at BlueFind I think the back link will ultimately have value.

By the way I think mosley700 has offered some honest opinions.

Just my 2 Cents.