how to check if the site is listed in the directory or not?

[Navdeep]

Hi all,
I checked the directory where i submitted the page, but it is not listed in that category and i searched from the home page of ODP, for the URL that i submitted but with no results. i thought that it is rejected by the editor.

then i searched for a site which is listed in the business category, but this produced 0 results.

how can i check the site in the ODP listing, other than searching, because it happens that some times site got listed in a category other than the one where it was submitted.

thanks
Navdeep s

[edited by: engine at 11:50 am (utc) on May 6, 2004]
[edit reason] example snipped [/edit]

[jtbell]

Ask in the Site Submission Status forum at the ODP Public Forum.

[hutcheson]

When dmoz.org search is working :( , then it's the best way. When it's not, you have to ask -- if it matters, which it really doesn't. (If it's not there, you go on with your life. If it's there, you have to go on with your life anyway.)

[Navdeep]

sorry hutcheson,
then what is directory doing there? if the site is listed in the category and when you search for the site from main page and it is coming up then it is sure that there is some serious problem with the search database of ODP.

[RFranzen]

...it is sure that there is some serious problem with the search database of ODP.

Yes, we know. It is our hope that the search database will be fully functional again in the next couple days, with very recent ODP data.

Once search is fully functional, the best way to find all instances of a domain is to search for the pure domain itself.

use: mydomain.com
not: www.mydomain.com
not: mydomain.com/users/~me

-- Rich

[hutcheson]

navdeep, there's always a delay (typically 1-2 weeks) after a change, before search is updated to show it. There's a problem right now: we know it (we told you, remember), and we know exactly how important it is (not at all) and how irritating it is (somewhat more than that).

You can sometimes use Google to search the dmoz.org site itself. You'd have to know either the exact URL (which isn't a problem if you're not submitting deeplinks or doorway domains) or the site title (which isn't a problem if you have a consistent business name).

[RFranzen]

and we know exactly how important it is (not at all)

I'll have to exclude myself from Hutch's we in this instance. I view the search function as a valuable component of any directory, including ours. We can live without it. We can search older ODP info via directory.google.com. I would rather we be fully functional, however.

I'm not sure where Hutch stands on the what is ODP question. The camps include:

1) Open Directory Project -- our main product is the RDF, data openly available to anyone who wishes to use it under our liberal license.

2) Open Directory Project -- our main product is at dmoz.org, established originally last century as GnuHoo -- an alternative directory to Yahoo!

3) Open Directory Project -- our main product is the contribution we make to the usefulness of the web. The opportunity to interact with like-minded and literate individuals is an important consideration. (Not to mention it keeps us off the streets and out of trouble. ;) )

I'm primarily with the #2 crowd. My guess, based on his attitude toward ODP search, is that Hutch would primarily classify himself with the first group. Any are cool. The end result is the same, whether one's primary motivation is open data, a world-class directory, or public service. We all want to continue improving the best human-edited directory in the world.

-- Rich

[hutcheson]

Hmm, interesting question, and I can't answer it in one bite.

Our product is the Directory, encapsulated in the RDF.
Our process is the Project, supported by tools at dmoz.org.

Of the tools at dmoz.org, the editing functionality is most important, followed by the meta-editing functionality (forums, logs, administration, RDF creation) and the conveniences (such as the various searches--the public one is not the only or even the most important search).

The high priority items -- if they are down, we don't work. The ODP bleeds.

The medium priority items can be down for a week to a month without stopping us. While they are down, ODP editors whine while they work.

The low priority items can be down for months at a time. We'd rather they work, and there is some work that is more difficult without them. If matters go much longer than a month, AND these things turn out to be essential, I'd expect editors to start writing substitutes. But this is an important point: editors CAN write substitutes for them. Editors can't substitute for the top-priority items.