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An accidental delete can be easily rectified by a senior editor. No resubmission would usually be necessary.
It may be that you have been taken out of the listings and await re-review in some other category. In this case, resubmitting will do you no good whatsoever.
Finally, your site may have been removed as it was originally listed in error, or no longer meets the guidelines for inclusion. In this case, any further resubmission would be treated as spam.
You need to find out which case your site falls under.
I was somehow removed from DMOZ in the last 2 months. Anyone else experience this?
yes..yes..removed from DMOZ; i must say I know what your going through buddy. Those feelings of
loneliness, abandonment, and disregard are all too familiar with are kind....
Thoughts on getting relisted
Sites can also get removed if site owners submit multiple sites (also known as mirrors), and pretend the sites are not related, but as said, in this case, a lot of editor discussion goes into this.
get asked about in a forum such as WebmasterWorld (where individual site discussions are banned by the WebmasterWorld TOS) several dozen editors will have discussed the listing in an internal ODP forum thread, and consensus obtained.
I doubt it. Why should editors care about what is discussed at WebmasterWorld? I admit I am just a low level editor and would not be part of any such discussions, but their existance seems unlikely given the DMOZ operating culture.
Besides, I remember reading at board similar to WebmasterWorld a few years ago someone speculating DMOZ editors worrying about the discussion on that board. Someone chimed in to say: no, we could not care less what is discussed here. And I think that's probably right.
I think most people whose sites are removed already know why (let's face it, it's usually because they are violating our guidelines and are well aware of this). However, if you're one of the minority who really is puzzled, it can't hurt you to ask. After all, your site's already been deleted. The worst that happens is the senior editors agree with the deletion. At best, your site may have been deleted in error (sometimes a temporary downage on your end causes an inexperienced editor to think the site has died and delete its listing--I've been guilty of this in the past myself!) If that's the case, then as has been said, it's a very quick fix once we're alerted to it. *my two cents*
Never hurts to ask - a normal question gets a normal answer.
It's the sleezebags who ask why site x was deleted, and they have no knowledge about site y which is listed, when the in fact the two sites link to each other, who get the sarcastic response, since they just lie to us.
But thanks for the input here all
I am a legitimate consultant
as oppose to a "family consiliere" ;). In any case, if you share your office with other professionals;
different companies, same receptionist, same address, same phone number; it may be the source if your problems.
Alarms go ringing at Dmoz Central if sites have the same phone numbers; not sure whether they inform you
of the issue or just ban you; in any case, do a search for your numbers and make sure they are no other sites with your number.
Those interlocking directorates are a dead giveaway also: you know, one office, two corporate officers, three companies, four products, and twelve zillion websites.
people who do shady things and don't lay low get what they have coming
I agree! Any Company and it's subsidiaries that is looking for long-term results regarding SEO, should not participate in any activity that would be considered "shady"; jeopardizing the DMOZ listing is not wise.
I would even take it a step further and not participate in any at all. When perspective and interpretion is thrown in the equation; anything remotely shading may be considered SPAM.
I'm waiting for DMOZ's "Would it be spam if we did this" form to submit another site. Unless KC, you
provide me with your personal email so I can send you any site we think of submitting so you can give it your personal review!
companies who share the same desk and phone deny they see each other across the desktop
you cannot deny that there are certain situations like; professionals working from a business center; that editors would have a hard time distinguishing if their sites are SPAM or legitimate sites. Business centers share all their contact informtion: address, phone numbers, and they can see themselves across their desktops. Are their any procedures at DMOZ in place that would prevent a site of one of these professionals being banned?
I have another situation that I can explain in detail that would/is/and will be misinterprated by editors; however, I'm discussing with our "family consiliere" before we attempt to rectify the situation again! It's True!
If you're already fairly sure why your site was removed and simply disagree with the reasoning (i.e. you think you ought to be able to have multiple listings for your business' different URL's, you think your business ought to qualify as multiple businesses, you think it's unreasonable of us to exclude affiliate sellers, etcetera), then it would probably not be a good use of your time to ask about it on our forum. We explicitly avoid telling people how we found their mirror sites, copied content, or whatever, so you're unlikely to get useful clues from us about how to get your sites by us better next time.
However, if you really don't have any idea why your site would have been removed, it is probably really worth it to ask. In particular, if your site was down at some point and either an editor or our automated link-checker noticed this, it would be put back into the unreviewed queue. It will be checked eventually (and re-added if it's back up), but if this is the case, then informing us the site is working again is useful for us and for you. Also, as has been pointed out, sites are occasionally deleted in error, and we fix this quickly when it's brought to our attention. So there is potentially something to gain, particularly if you're willing to accept "Sorry, it didn't meet our guidelines upon a re-review" as a possible answer.
*two more cents*
[edited by: flicker at 1:14 pm (utc) on April 29, 2004]
I felt like I was on American Idol or something.
LOL - Now dats funny!
There are many people that use Dmoz; not just Google. Local papers here always make reference to it as a good alternative to the major search engines. It would be just as useful as the SE if there wasn't so much clicking required to get to what you want. I could only assume that as more and more people become "internet friendly"; usage will grow. Plus, you never know if a major player will decide to buy them...
The deeplinking issue is a tricky one to try and explain. My best approximation is that when I'm evaluating a site, I'm looking for a reason, any reason, to list it. If I see any unique, original content on the site whatsoever, then into the directory somewhere it goes. However, if I'm evaluating a site which already *has* a listing somewhere in the directory (either under the same URL, a different URL in the same domain, a mirror site, what-have-you), then my criteria change, and I consider whether the extra listing would be *so* valuable to the new category that I can't pass it up. So to get an additional listing for another section of your site, you need to have not only unique original content, but a -lot- of it, which is substantially different than other content on the same topic available anywhere else on the web, which will really enrich the additional category. Practically speaking, if the multiple listings would be in the same category or in multiple subcategories of the same category, it's rarely appropriate. It's almost never appropriate in Business or especially Shopping categories. And moreso than an original listing, multiply listed sites are subject to repeated re-review as the additional categories they're listed in change and expand. One can never *rely* on an ODP listing staying there forever, but if there is original content on your site, it has a pretty good chance of staying in the ODP as long as the content remains. Deeplinks and multiple listings, however, shouldn't be counted on at all. They're really only there at an editor's judgment that they add exceptional value to the subcategory, and that can change at any time.
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Disclaimer: This post constitutes an unofficial, personal opinion not necessarily shared by other ODP editors, the university, or my cats.
