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If it doesn't appear, then something else has happened. That might not be bad news. Sometimes an editor feels that a site would better fit in another category and either lists it there, or sends it off there to be reviewed by another editor.
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Editor makes a decision, which might be:
1) to defer a decision
2) to reject the site
3) to move the site to some less-inappropriate category for some other editor to decide
4) to list the site.
In cases 1-3 nothing will happen outside the "Pope celebrates mass; Microsoft commits IP property theft, purjury, barratry, and programming malpractice; sun rises in east; bears in woods" category. And cases 1-3 represent 80-90% of the reviews.
On one of the rare cases when a site is listed, this will happen:
Editors will see the listing immediately.
In 1-10 days, visitors to dmoz.org (and many small clones thereof) will begin to see the listing in the directory.
In 7 days or a few weeks, users of dmoz.org search will begin to see the listing.
In a few days to a few weeks, users of major search engines like google and inktomi will begin to see the effects of the ODP listing.
In several weeks to several months, visitors to major licencees like google and AOL will see the listings in their copies of the directory.
When sites are removed, the effects of the listing decay in about the same order.
and the second one was from -> [editors.dmoz.org...]
so its .."insh allah"..
It should be (but probably isn't) needless to mention that (1) editors often use two separate windows to edit in: one to view the site, and one to type their review/description. In such a case, you won't be able to recognize them in your logs at all.
(2) What viewing mode an editor uses has nothing to do with that they actually do (that happens AFTER the site access) or even what they intended to do (some editors prefer one mode, some prefer another, some switch back and forth depending on other factors).
(3) What an editor intended to do, if they had formed an intention other than "process this submittal", is not necessarily what they end up doing.
IF the referer shows the category, then that was the category where the submittal was sitting when the editor began to review it. They might still move it to another category, or (rarely) accept it directly into another category.
First time I ever asked for inclusion in the Dmoz it was reveiwed and included within two days ....
so its .."insh allah"..
1) I have been trying to get a listing in the ODP for 18 months, or more....
2) Wasn't listed so I decided to apply to be an editor for a totally non-related category that I enjoyed as a hobby after about 12 months....
3) I learnt the guidelines for submission so much so I could say them in my sleep.
4) Re-submitted my site to the correct category with a listing that was within the guidelines 72 hours ago.
5) Had no dmoz.org or any other referrer details in my logs.
6) Listed about 36 hours ago.
Moral to the story: just because you do or don't see a refferer in your logs means nothing about your site being listed in the ODP. Oh, and if you are trying to get listed, find out what kind of links they want to provide and read the guidelines to being accepted. Karma is a good thing, why not help out in editing for an un-related topic to your business venture.
Lessee ... tai ching pattern 94, extended code page ISO-TC14. Hmm, the broken link: "the meat was rancid but the vodka was excellent"? No, that can't be it. Oh, code page TC17, yes, the heavenly inquiry. "have a prudent answer prepared before the question is asked."
Some people swear by crystal balls, too. But those server logs are way too cryptic -- and the demon Murphy could give Bill Gates lessons in subtle mendacity.
Did I mention: lots of times editors have two windows (or tabs -- Mozilla use among editors is probably 10 times higher than in the general population), one to review sites and one to edit listings. (Duh, makes sense, no?) So you really won't necessarily see any recognizable referer when the site is reviewed.
:)
nalavanje
Always good to hear ODP succes stories. Hope it brings you lots more traffic!
That will never happen. Some clones are still using four or five year old data with an alarming percentage of link rot and hijacked domains in them.
You could do the web a good service by asking mouldy old directory copies to go and fetch a newer version from [rdf.dmoz.org...] noting that a new one appears several times per month, and has done so for the last year.
Within weeks, the final part of the UTF-8 conversion project will hopefully be finished too (current RDF file has ~3 000 invalid characters in 2 000 000 000 characters).
But they've got to want to do it. And that will seems to be lacking.
On the other hand (let me start a completely unfounded urban legend) maybe:
(Like most Google theories, it doesn't really work. But while they don't tell us straight, they gotta expect folk to speculate).
To most people, the dmoz.org technical priorities may seem strange: it doesn't promote itself, and that its only product (the directory RDF) is sometimes broken for weeks at a time seems not to be a cause for panic.
The solution lies in observing the name: it's not the "Open Directory", it's the "Open Directory Project." dmoz.org is editors' worksite and toolset, not its product. So long as editors can work, the _Project_ is functioning. And whether or not this week's RDF fails, we're already working on next week's. But if the toolset is broken, next weeks' RDF wouldn't be worth publishing anyway.
Regards
Voyteck
If after a few months you see no action, you can enquire on a specific forum run by ODP editors for a status update.
