Netscape Directory

Do they tweak DMOZ results?

[glengara]

In a purported interview with G at the iverify board it implies Directory results come from Netscape rather than straight from DMOZ.
So I was just wondering if Netscape put DMOZ results through their own algo/filters.

[edited by: heini at 1:02 pm (utc) on Nov. 17, 2002]
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[seindal]

Go to dmoz.org and look at the bottom of the page. It says:

Copyright © 1998-2002 Netscape

Netscape funds and run dmoz.org.

René.

[glengara]

I just found the mention of Netscape somewhat odd; I'm assuming no change to DMOZ results then?

[mack]

I think netscape do use a different search algo on their directory as oposed to the standard DMOZ set up. Granted thay do own DMOZ but sure don't boast about it much.

[glengara]

Looking at the results for Regional>Europe, there appears to be quite a discrepency in the number of results between DMOZ and Netscape.
Whereas G and Netscape seem to have the same number of results.

[heini]

That "purported" interview is a simple rewrite of the same straight from the horses mouth cheap stunt floating arund the web for over a year.
There's nothing in it that is not more detailed at Google's webmaster pages. Furthermore the details are obviously outdated.
I'd say it's rather from the horses rear than the horses mouth ;)
As to the connection between Google and Dmoz the best indication on what Google does with the listings there we should probably look at the Google directory.

[tlcbiz]

Hello all,

I am the woman (also the moderator) who posted on the Business Success Forum at iVerify.com about the email I received from Google regarding "getting higher in the rankings".

I noticed some visitors coming from your site to the board today and was pleasantly surprised to see that someone mentioned my post on your own forum which I do appreciate.

But given that you, Heini, are the administrator of this forum I am surprised that you would post such a callous response about my post (horse's rear? yikes) without at least emailing me and asking me to forward you a copy of their email.

The information was in fact "straight from the horse's mouth"; from Google.

I didn't get it from another site online or make it up.

Everything in my post was what they recently sent me (about a week ago) in response to my direct inquiry of them and I am more than happy to forward you what they sent me, just email me at the Yahoo email address found on my board (I get too much spam at the other email address and sometimes miss the legitimate ones).

Sincerely,

TLC

[edited by: Marcia at 12:03 am (utc) on Nov. 18, 2002]
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[heini]

Hello tlcbiz - welcome to WebmasterWorld

I apologize if my message sounded a bit harsh. I did not mean to imply you did fake the message, but that it is obviously a rewrite.
The thing is just that if what has been posted there comes directly from Google it probably is a canned reply, which aditionally is rather outdated.

There are near identical copies of this text, even with the same tag line (straight from the horses mouth) on other forums on the web, one of them an adult webmaster forum, dating back to last year.

Aditionally everything in that message is to be found at Google's webmaster help section, in more detail.

So I just wanted to point out that drawing any further conclusions from that would probably not be advisable.

[tlcbiz]

Heini, thank you for apologizing, I do appreciate it.

I am sure you are correct about the Google email contents being repeated text because I can't see them putting together an elaborate email just to answer one person's questions when many must email them each day asking the same thing.

The reason I posted it on my message board is because:

1.) the information was all in one place and judging by the questions on my board people have a difficult time finding it on Google

and 2.) although the webmasters here on this board are probably quite familiar with most of the information found in that email note my board at iverify.com is instead frequented by mostly business owners and marketing managers and most of the detail found in that email is new and useful information to them.

Where did you see a similar post using the same subject title I used? I know you probably don't want to post the link here but I would be interested in seeing it even though I'm not in the adult industry, feel free to email me the link.

Finally I am wondering something about the contents of the email from Google--what parts of it do you find to be outdated? I am curious because I got the email from them on Nov 7, just 10 days ago. I don't know why corporate would allow emailed responses to go out with outdated information.

TLC

[edited by: Marcia at 12:01 am (utc) on Nov. 18, 2002]
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[glengara]

The part i found interesting was:

<snip>

I read affiliated as linked, and as such it's the first time G seems to imply links from 'dubious' SEO/SEM firms can cause problems.

[edited by: Marcia at 12:25 am (utc) on Nov. 18, 2002]
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[glengara]

To get back to the subject, Netscape and G directories differ from DMOZ in the number of their results, so is Netscape feeding in the extras?