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Fairla

9:30 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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While doing a search, I came across a website using one of my articles. I contacted the site owner and asked him to remove my article. In response he sent me several taunting letters, saying basically that he can do as he pleases and it's "fair use" because he included a link to my site. I know copyright law and I know what fair use is, and using the entire text of someone else's article without permission (AND without including a legally correct copyright notice) is NOT fair use.

I can't complain to his web host because he's apparently running his own server. I could send a DMCA complaint to Google, but this guy has made it clear that he would just send a counter notice claiming he's free to use my work on his site, and Google would automatically reinstate him, so I'd be wasting my time. I can't afford a lawyer, while this guy clearly can (hence his taunting).

It's not a very long article (and he's using an older version which contains some errors, the fool), and his site's not going to be getting a lot of traffic (it's his personal website) so it's not a big deal financially (except when you multiply it by all the dozens of other sites using my articles), but it really burns me up that he thinks he has a right to steal my work instead of writing his own article (he actually said that my request that he remove MY article from his site "infringes on his basic rights.")

As far as I know, there is no advocacy group to help small website owners combat copyright theft. So I'm stumped. For all practical purposes, this guy is right -- he is free to use my work without my permission because I don't have enough money to sue to stop him. Anybody have any ideas what I can do about this?

martinibuster

9:37 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Complain to Google. Complain to Yahoo. Complain to his domain name registrar.

hunderdown

9:38 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)



I think you should do a DMCA complaint--I'm not sure he's right that Google would automatically reinstate him if he makes a counter-claim.

Have you searched the archives here on this subject? I remember a lot of threads on this topic over the past several months, which included a number of suggested actions....

Let us know what happens!

uncle_bob

9:38 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you can't complain to his web host, complain to his ISP, or whoever is providing connectivity for his server. Also try and see if his is infringing anyone elses copyright and contact them, as they may be able to afford a lawyer.

Fairla

9:48 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow, thanks for all the quick responses. He is scoffing at the law (in his words, the DMCA is "crazily infringing"), and I know I would win if I had a lawyer, so it's infuriating. I have a feeling this one is going to be a losing battle, but you're right, I shouldn't give up without a further fight. I'll see what more I can do.

(By the way, he didn't say Google would reinstate him, that is my presumption based on Google's policies. I know he would send a counter-notice, and I don't think Google has the resources or motivation to check into whether his notice is truthful. I'm also concerned about Google potentially giving this oh-so-nice guy my name and address. But I suppose I should complain anyway.)

coconutz

9:51 pm on Nov 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You might want to dig around in the Library [webmasterworld.com]:

Stolen Content: What To Do First [webmasterworld.com]

BigDave

2:57 am on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If he has the money to afford a lawyer, he also has the money to pay out on a judgement. See if you can find a lawyer to work on contingency.

Most likely, once he sees you are serious, his lawyer will tell him that it is cheaper and easier to remove the content and cut a settlement check.

For one thing, if he really has a lawyer, the lawyer would already be telling him he is in the wrong, and to stop doing what he is doing.

dejaone

7:09 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm aware of an one-page website. All text on that page is from one of my articles. Of course, it links to my site, otherwise I won't even know that page.

I didn't do anything at all, and no plan to do anything unless it damages my site somehow. It's not worthy it.

I've been talking to a few laywers for other matters lately. The one thing I found out is that if you want to go through a expensive litigation process you need to calculate what you get if you win and what you lose if you don't.

There're 4 ways to resolve business dispute 1) negotiation, 2) mediation, 3) arbitrition and 4) litigation.

fairla, you may not like what I said here. In your case, I'd say ignore it and spend your valuable time on more improtant things.

If the guy causes damage on you or makes lot of money out of your work, go after him.

ronburk

11:23 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you were to take his IP address, and paste it into the ARIN (Google for "arin") search box, I suspect there's a better than even chance that you would find his IP address was assigned to an ISP, probably one who lists an "abuse" email address. If so, that would be a likely place to send a simple complaint without going to the bother and expense of a lawyer.

Most people who run their own servers are not large enough entities to obtain their own IP address blocks, or establish their own connections to Internet backbones. Thus, they still typically have "an ISP", and are generally still subject to some form of Terms of Service.

moneymancn

11:34 pm on Nov 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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< you may not like what I said here. In your case, I'd say ignore it and spend your valuable time on more improtant things>

I totally agree.
We get copied etc a lot and I/we could spend all our time chasing it.
We get on with new projects and earn more dollars which we find is,in our case,better utilsation of our time.We earn more than we would by winning litigation.

MM

rogerd

1:01 pm on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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While getting involved in a legal morass is usually non-productive, you could probably send out a raft of complaints to the search engines, his ISP, and his domain registrar in less than an hour. (Don't forget to include all addresses associated with the WHOIS record.) If his site has advertisers or sponsors, contact them, too. Don't forget to fully document his replies - this will make it impossible for him to claim later that he didn't realize the content was copyrighted.

If the site owner does appear to have financial resources, consider speaking with an attorney. JudgeJeffries posted a while back about how his attorney was able to extract a quick settlement when he caught a large firm stealing his content. An attorney is definitely the place to go for legal advice that is correct and relevant to your situation.

Fairla

11:12 pm on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, it's true that in some ways it's not worth pursuing. I dread searching for certain topics because I so often find sites using my articles. I don't really have time to devote to a huge fight over one copyright violation, much less dozens of them.

I still haven't decided what to do about this one. I let his taunting annoy me too much. So I'm trying to cool down before deciding whether to pursue it further. Thank you very much to everyone for the suggestions.

photocartoonist

1:39 am on Nov 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It may not be worth a lawsuit, but it is not good practice allowing your work to be used without your permission, in my opinion. If you can't afford a lawyer, you might qualify for support from the Volunteer Lawyers for the Arts. The Bar Association in your area will make referrals, and for around $25 you can consult with an attorney for an hour.

I have done the following with great success:

1. demand that all content they are using without written permission be removed immediately
2. demand that the infringer pay the costs of my attorney (whether I have involved them or not at that point)
3. and that they do both within 24 hours or I will take further action.

I also remind them of the fact that my content is registered with the US copyright office. And this makes a big difference. It is a good idea to register you work and that is as easy as registering your website and updating that registration at least every 6 months if you have added new content.

I send this letter to all contact information, including their host/ISP and all registrant information in a Whois search.

Usually that is enough. In my cases, the webmasters have taken their sites down, mostly because I do not identify my content, so if they are making a practice of infringing copyrights it has a greater effect.

If my content is still on their site 24 hours later I would send DMCA complaints to everything connected to them in the United States.

Remember that your intellectual property is valuable and in my opinion you cannot afford NOT to take action to protect it.

chhchung

2:27 pm on Nov 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It doesn't hurt, i will forgive him. If you spend your time to sue, you better write a better article for him and ask him to remove the old article.

derekwong28

3:57 am on Dec 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<I can't complain to his web host because he's apparently running his own server>

That is not true, you can complain to his webhost and his datacentre. But to get them to do anything, you may need a solicitor's letter.

El_Tel

12:07 pm on Dec 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi, I don't know where you live, but in my opinion the only way the "little guy" can deal with this is by belonging to a larger organisation. For example, I live in UK and belong to the Society of Authors. In the USA there is, for example, the ASJA at [asja.org...] If you join the right organisation you will get their support, eg in the form of a strong letter threatening legal action. Hope this helps