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E.U. Legal Affairs Committee Votes for Article 11 and Article 13 Copyright Directive

     
11:59 am on Jun 20, 2018 (gmt 0)

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The E.U.'s legal affairs committee has voted for the Copyright Directive and in favour of Article 11 and Article 13 today, and now both of these very challenging parts of the copyright reform package now move on to the next stage in the process.

Article 11 is aimed at aggregators of news content, but could also go further by requiring any snippets of data be paid for. This has happened in Germany and Spain independently, and it didn't end particularly well.
Some of you will remember when Google removed snippets from German News publishers [webmasterworld.com] over the original directive in the country. I recall that the publishers ended up agreeing that Google's traffic was more valuable than to receive payment for the snippets. this, too, happened in Spain, but under those circumstances, no agreement was reached and everything was removed.

Article 13, in simple terms, could mean the end of the freedoms of the Internet and much greater censorship.
Net Experts Open Letter Opposing E.U.'s Article 13 Copyright Provision [webmasterworld.com]

I support protecting copyright, however, these catch-all rules will have a far reaching effect and impact much wider sectors than the worst of the targets.
1:12 pm on June 20, 2018 (gmt 0)

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As I said previously, if it kills pinterest..( a site based entirely upon aiding, abetting, and encouraging it's members abuse of other people's copyrights ) I'm all in favour. If another website cannot be bothered to only allow posting of material by the copyright owner, then they should be sanctioned, be they Google, Pinterest, Megaupload, ( name your cyber locker ) ..or lil' joe webmaster..I also include those who think it is OK to allow their members to use avatar images that they did not create.

It is like spouse abuse or child abuse..even a little is not OK, and should be legally sanctioned.
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Posting a picture is not "fair use"..non of the image copyright abuse posters or hosters ever post or host just 10% of the image..They post it all, often in high definition, and places like Pinterest, in particular actually help ( a quote from their current "help files"* at
[help.pinterest.com...]
If you’re having trouble saving things to Pinterest from specific websites, let us know. Please provide a link to the website, and tell us which image you’re trying to save.

)

their members to get around any blocks ( such as robot or htaccess ) that image creators may put in place, "fair use does not apply".

*I have had that page ( which has had that text for a long time now, "notarized" by the French Equivalent of a "notary public", ..a "huissier" , so their witnessing of Pinterest's facilitation of copyright abuse can be introduced in any judicial proceedings.
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Article 13 ... how appropriate a number.

Copyright should be protected, but the EU is putting the onus of that protection on the wrong party, a third party with no connection to the copyright doing dirty work for the creators/holders of copyright. Terribly bad decision, and one that will hurt more copyright holders than law breakers in that copyright trolls could conceivably tie up legitimate content with false claims, or bend an election at the last minute. Too many things to go wrong as currently proposed. One can only hope there are saner heads in EU parliament who will question the scope ... but that's unlikely. They are, after all, politicians.
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I have no problem with the politicians who voted for this being eradicated from the Internet. It is a poor attempt to solve a problem by feeble minds embedded in the 17th century.

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The real problem is "It's NOT My Job!"

Webmaster, portals, what have you, are not copyright police. This is, a new job invented by lawmakers catering to massive lobbyists working for media companies that --- so far --- have failed (or found too expensive) to protect their ip or pursue those infringers unjustly enriching themselves. Why? In the past they did do such things and socking a soccer mom for a couple of million dollars for her dancing baby to some obscure tune ... and the incredible bad optics of that tarnishing their brand. By having webmasters do it for them (by law) that keeps their hands clean.

I am not wearing a tin foil hat, but it probably sounds like it.

(Musician, songwriter, author who has zealously protected my ip for the last 45 years at some time and expense, but have recovered significant judgements which make the time and expense pale in consideration. And jailed one egregious infringer.)

IOW, been there, done that, and didn't need a politician to get 'er done.
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(Musician, songwriter, author who has zealously protected my ip for the last 45 years at some time and expense, but have recovered significant judgements which make the time and expense pale in consideration. And jailed one egregious infringer.)

IOW, been there, done that, and didn't need a politician to get 'er done.


That's because you are in the US.
In Europe, trying to chase a copyright violation cross border is extremely expensive: you wont't find any no-win, no-fee deals here.
And even if you do get a judgement in your favour, you may never collect any money.

A few years ago, I would have been vehemently opposed to these types of actions, however it is now my belief that desperate and urgent action needs to be taken - especially against the (now) internet giants that have gained market dominance thanks to facilitating piracy (YouTube etc.).

Perhaps, a Library of Congress facility for Europeans to register copyrights, statutory settlements, no-win no-fee lawyers and a method to enforce settlements would have been better, but that would be extremely difficult to create and foster across Europe.
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I'm tired of spending probably 10% of my work time per year chasing parasites, people too dumb or too lazy to create content themselves. Any step back in the right direction is fine by me.

Is it perfect? No, of course not, no new rule/regulation ever is, just like GDPR is far from perfect.
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Today, the The European Parliament did NOT vote the mandate. So now it's going back to the drawing table, with a full plenary debate and possibility to vote on changes (September).
 

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