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8:18 pm on Dec 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I write discussions on my site at times and the only issue I have occasionally is where exactly to put Comma's and where not to.

Is there a Grammer Checker program out there , that for sure can correct the Comma thing ? (for instance, in this sentence as well)

I'm horrible with Comma's.

I tried -

[spellchecker.net...]

which seems legit..but it never fixed any of my Comma's even when I deliberately screwed my sentences up.

8:28 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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In my experience, no grammer checker is 100% reliable, because they don't get context like human minds do. You might do better to take a course, either online or at your local college...

By the way, you also need to learn not to put apostrophes on plurals, and not to capitalize words that shouldn't be capitalized (should be "commas" not "Comma's").

8:38 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Grammer?

Grammar, surely.

Unless you mean Kelsey Grammer. He doesn't checking.

8:39 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Read the sentence out loud. Your commas will go where the natural pauses are.

There are, however, a few exceptions to this general rule.;)

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>There are, however, a few exceptions to this general rule.;)

You see.. like thats what I mean. I dont even know if that sentence was properly grammerized.

Let me guess.. It should be :

There are however, a few exceptions to this general rule.

?

11:44 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Personally, the only software that I've used that has or claims to have the capability of checking grammar is MS Word. It does a fairly decent job but I wouldn't say it's perfect.
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MS Word doesn't fix Comma's.
8:16 pm on Dec 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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There are however, a few exceptions to this general rule.

Nope. It was correct the first time. When a "commentary" word or phrase is interjected into an already complete flow of words, it should be separated by commas both before and after.

There are, however, blah blah ....
There is, by the way, blah blah ...

Please note: as someone already pointed out, the word is spelled grammAr.

11:52 pm on Dec 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

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mike2010,

I haven't seen a decent grammar checker since the early 1990s when I liked one called Grammatik. (I wasn't looking for one since then - they might still exist.)

When I see someone using an apostrophe to make a plural, e.g. comma's, (and they are asking for help with grammAr, I tell them never to use an apostrophe. They would be correct more often than not.

You also should be aware of Style versus Grammar. Newspapers and large companies have house style guides that prescribe one style over another when both forms are correct. e.g. some schools taught kids to use an apostrophe to pluralise an acronym or contraction, e.g. ICBM's versus ICBMs (I use the latter). A grammar checker won't help you in these instances.

5:48 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Grammer?
Grammar, surely.

Indeed! And my internal spell-checker isn't 100% reliable either. My original point stands. Rather than relying on a programmatic crutch, improving your skills and using resources such as The Chicago Manual of Style will do you the most good in the long run.

12:56 pm on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Take a grammar class. You can probably take one at a community college. You would also learn how to use apostrophes in a class like that. If you think of grammar like a logic puzzle, it isn't so boring. I used to teach it to my comp students because they never learned it in high school. Grammar gives good "if/then" skills. In a class, you will get examples like the difference between "Let's eat, Mother" and "Let's eat Mother." That's the kind of thing you won't get from software. You could legally deduct the cost of the course as a business expense.

I like anallawalla's advice about apostrophes: when in doubt, don't.

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Hmmm, following that rule, perhaps it should be, "When in doubt, dont." ;)

Developing strong grammar skills may take a while and involve study and plenty of reading. (I find people who read lots of real books tend to develop good grammar skills - even if they don't know all the rules, errors will pop out because they "look funny.")

As an interim step, I'd suggest a proofreader. Students are often happy to work for very little cash. If you are posting as the site operator, having "error's" and spelling issues will not convey the impression you want to. I realize that may take away from the immediacy of your posts, but that's the tradeoff for professional-looking prose.

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I think you would be better served using a site like (USA centric) [owl.english.purdue.edu...]

Lots of good discussion and, once learned, will flow naturally as you write.

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He doesn't checking.

Oops! ;)

5:56 pm on Mar 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Since MS -word doesn't fix the comma problem, you need to google it out. Or the best way is to get a proofreader, or yourself read the article loudly so that you can get the natural pauses to insert the commas.
7:40 pm on Mar 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Look for "Chicago Manual of Style", a reference book that clearly explains punctuation use and grammar. Might even find it on line. Another method of using commas is to avoid them. Write short sentences. Avoid using a modifying phrase to complete a thought. Keep it simple!
5:06 pm on Mar 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

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bizminder is spot on.

Don't forget about the programming approach too:

If you're not sure about a pause,
then you probably don't need a comma.
 

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