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Saving webpages as evidence

         

john22

11:42 am on Sep 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi

heres a tough one...
As webpages are not persistent, i.e. they can be modified or removed at any time, is there anywhere to somehow, freeze frame them, so that the webpage could be used in legal evidence in matters such as slander etc.
Simply Printing or saving the page has its limitation in being "concrete" evidence as it can easily be modified and resaved.
Some way of independently saving the page, similar to wayback archive machine (that has been used in court) but on an ad hoq basis and even with webpages that are held at non-spiderable locations...?

Dont all answer at once :)

trooper27

12:06 pm on Sep 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure about that but I have the feeling this site can help you - [archive.org...]

vincevincevince

12:09 pm on Sep 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Print them, get an ISBN number for them (or ISSN if appropriate) and file the obligatory copy with the British Library.

cmarshall

12:12 pm on Sep 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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This sounds like an application for a JATO (Joint Attorney Tally Operation).

In NYC, there's a law that says you can't sue for "trip and fall" accidents on city sidewalks unless the City has been previously notified about the pavement crack, and failed to act.

The result is, as was told to me by an attorney friend of mine, a database of thousands of potholes and pavement cracks in NYC. I've looked for it online, but haven't found it yet. Apparently, the City is kept apprised, so, if someone falls over a listed pavement crack, they can sue the City. It is kept up by an association of attorneys.

I dunno. I have to see it to believe it.

However, there may be some validity in having a "forensic achive.org" set up. With storage costs being what they are these days, and servers going for a dime a dozen, it probably wouldn't be that difficult or expensive.

Just a thought...

john22

1:08 pm on Sep 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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hi,

vin: get a ISBN, thats only for *offline* stuff, not what im talking about really.

cm:
thats exactly what i was thinking, some sort of way to quickly capture them via a "independent" service, but there isnt one?

ok its my idea then, patent pending. lol

cmarshall

1:21 pm on Sep 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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patent pending. lol

I'll lay odds this already exists in the Big Black Cube at Fort meade.

john22

1:57 pm on Sep 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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FYI ok ive found something that might help:
[myweb.yahoo.com...]
but it doesnt seem to work! pages dont save... :(

FURL.NET by looksmart seems to work

BigDave

9:04 pm on Sep 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Have your lawyer do it. Not only should they know what is acceptable to the courts, they are have their license to practice law on the line, which the court knows they will be unlikely to risk.