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Which forum software do you run and why?

         

huwnet

10:22 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Haven't seen anything like this here before so I thought I would start it.

Which type of forum (e.g. IPB, vBulletin, SMF, phpBB do you use) and why?

I use SMF (simple machines forum) because it is free.

It has all the features of phpBB and most of the features from IPB and VB. It is also fast and secure.

marcel

8:01 am on Jan 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For the asp.net users...

Has anyone tried Community Server?
[communityserver.org...]

Casethejoint

12:51 pm on Jan 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No, but I did have a play with Dot Nuke Net [dotnetnuke.com], an opensource ASP CMS with a forum module. Rather nice it is too.

rogerd

3:21 am on Jan 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>options that I hadn't expected even with all my research

This is a classic argument for buying high volume commercialware vs. self-development. It's almost impossible to identify in advance all the features you'll need or could find useful in a piece of software. If you buy a mature program that has had a good development team and large userbase, you'll find that when you realize there's a feature you need that it's already been put there.

2112design

11:07 am on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I use Invision. It seems to do everything I need and has a nice admin panel. my only complaint is, if i create many forums with the same rules and permissions, it would be nice to have them follow a master template or something. does anyone know is that's possible?

for example, i have different areas of Thailand but they all follow the same format, building supplier information in different parts of the country. any ideas how to duplicate when creating?

thx steve

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chaaban

4:48 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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any news about BestBBS?

lorax

3:08 am on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Roger,
How's the speed of vBulletin? I've tested their demo site which seemed sluggish. After using PunBB - which is very light and quick - I'd hate to lose the speed if I do make a switch.

rogerd

9:40 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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vBB is quite resource intensive. On a fast server it can be very quick, particularly if you disable useless stuff like whose having a birthday today, who's online, etc. My first step in a vBB install is to start whacking stuff I don't feel is necessary.

If you don't expect tons of users, you are probably fine on a reasonable shared hosting server. If you are looking at hundreds of users online at once, you'll almost certainly be needing a decent dedicated server. Over a thousand simultaneous users, and you'll need at least a high-end dedicated server and probably a database server, too. Most forums don't get that busy, though.

People do run vBB with less hardware, but either they tolerate lower performance or are better than the vBB experts at tuning servers.

The key factors for fast page delivery in vBB, IMO, are to keep the pages light and minimize the queries needed for the frequently accessed page types. It can be as quick as any other software if you do that.

I think vBB is a good choice for most forums - probably the only dicey applications would be very busy forums with no revenue (or insufficient revenue) to defray the server cost. In that case, you might want to choose a board with fewer features that won't be as resource-hungry.

rogerd

9:43 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>any news about BestBBS?

I don't have any inside info, but I don't think a release is imminent.

lorax

11:54 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Roger. The forum in question is relatively low key. I've got room to grow and by the time it reaches the milestones you noted I think it'll be financially self-supporting.

Oldiesmann

2:52 am on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Gazraa - You will get a different answer to your question depending on who you ask. Some people (like me) will say that you shouldn't pay for a forum system, while others will say that vBulletin is the best thing out there. It really depends on your needs and wants - if you don't want to shell out a ton of money for a forum system, then you'd be better off going with SMF. If you find that vBulletin has a ton of features that you can't live without, then maybe you should go with vBulletin. Sit down and decide which features you absoultely can't live without, which features you would like but don't absolutely need and which features you have no use for. Then, compare both SMF and vBulletin, and see which one comes out on top.

Blake

2:25 am on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



I've been running Discus Pro since 1998. Currently at 8,100+ registered users, 110 GB served per month. Pretty simple stuff. Easy for me, a non-web admin professional.

My biggest and really only gripe with Discus is the clunky auto-archiving scheme it uses. Would much prefer the much more elegant method used by most other discussion boards (simple small unobtusive numeric links). Discus puts a new subtopic on the thread being archived when it starts a new page.

Supposedly version 5, which should be out soon, will address that issue. If not, I will be switching to Vbb.

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Casethejoint

7:38 am on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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> simple small unobtusive numeric links <

There is a short-ish code hack that can achieve this result, but yes, it's a lot of trouble :)

PeteM

1:09 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My advice would be to consider the other features you wish to add to your website and how these will integrate with each other. For example you wouldn't want a Photo Album that has a separate user database.

For example, I currently use Smartor's (smartor.is-root.com) ezPortal and Photo Album, phpCA (www.phpca.net) for Classified Ads and phpBB for my forum.

Pete

rogerd

4:14 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Blake, welcome to WebmasterWorld. I'm an ex-Discus user, and liked it a lot. The clumsy archiving is indeed the biggest drawback, particularly for a busy board. I might have to check out Version 5 if and when it releases. I found it to be very efficient in use of resources. Of course, it wasn't trying to generate every page on the fly like the typical PHP/MySQL forum.

jamie

4:40 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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nice tips for VB rogerd thanks.

our forum has between 50 and 100 simultaneous users and runs on RHEL, Xeon 2.8 GHZ + 2 GB Ram. the load average is often up over 3 and page loads are slow.

i have now taken off the who's online (in spite of the clammer of our members) and will see how this goes.

i love VB's functionality, but it is quite sluggish.

on the same server with 1 GB RAM, phpbb ran much quicker.

however, the customisations possible with VB's new plugin system have made the change more than worthwhile.

JustMom

10:22 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I own a website and forum community with the forums hosted through Groupee.com (formerly InfoPop.com). I did not choose this forum hosting provider, it was chosen by the owner before me, but as the community continues to grow, the monthly hosting seems very expensive, nearing $300/month.

I have contacts available to reach and attract many new members, but I'm nervous to do so because of the expanding hosting costs. (Membership is free, but some members make voluntary donations, plus I have a small amount of advertising revenue.)

Although I have web development skills, this site is currently a part-time hobby for me so I don't want to be stuck with a lot of tech support chores myself. Can you suggest robust but affordable hosting provider for the following useage levels:

+ 7,000+ registered members, about 1,000 active per month
+ total online at a time is often about 50 members and 100 guests - the guests may be unregistered, or may be members who are browsing without signing in
+ approximately 1 million page views per month
+ bandwidth of 60 GB per month and growing
+ disk space of 400 MB and growing

I am looking for very stable and dependable forum hosting, easy for me to configure and customize, and an easy transition from Groupee. I don't mind paying $200 or so per month, but want to be able to attract new members without seeing my costs rise to $400, $500, etc.

JustMom

10:28 pm on Feb 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A little more info on current traffic/usage of the forum I just described, in case this helps with recommendation:

+ I mentioned 1 million page views per month but the latest number is 1.3 million per month
+ 8,000 hours of forum usage per month
+ 1,000 new topics started per month by members - some topics get just a few replies, some get 100+, the average must be 10 to 20 replies per topic - we probably average 300 to 500 posts per day

Thanks!

huwnet

2:16 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Justmom you really are getting ripped off. For $300 a month you could buy 3 good quality dedicated servers.

I recommend you post at Web hosting talk (Google it!) :D

xmar

4:27 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PHPBB, because that's what my webmaster suggested. I had my programmer modify the heck out of it. Now I guess it's hard to upgrade to the latest version.

rogerd

6:23 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>For $300 a month you could buy 3 good quality dedicated servers

Or a few hours of time from a senior server admin. The problem with inexpensive dedicated servers is that they generally have very little server management built into the cost and probably zero application support.

If Justmom is a Linux/Apache pro, of course, a cheap dedicated box might work. If not, some admin and app support time will need to be figured into the cost.

speedpro50

11:47 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I use vBulletin across all of my forums for its ease of use and that fact it is easy to modify.

Casethejoint

10:14 am on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If only WW had polls! I'd be interested to see the spread of usage of particular boards across WW.

wmuser

6:24 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Invision board is fine for me

Casethejoint

11:53 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So far, the results of this not particularly methodologically sound survey are ...

8 Users

  • vBulletin
    4 Users
  • PhpBB
  • Invision
  • Simple Machines Forum
    2 Users
  • DiscusWare
  • YaBB
  • punBB
    1 User
  • Simpleforum Pro
  • XMB
  • ASPBB

    ...yes folks, we have a clear leader :o

  • wmuser

    10:41 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I think those numbers reflect some real stats..

    jatar_k

    10:46 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    >> real stats

    though I would probably swap to this as the top 3

    PhpBB
    vBulletin
    Invision

    in that order

    Casethejoint

    12:17 pm on Mar 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Given the frequency with this this question crops up on WW, there's probably room for someone to hack together a simple and relatively objective "What Forum Software?" comparison site with a matrix outlining the features of various editions of forum software. Something like the excellent "WikiMatrix" or "OpenSourceCMS" sites.

    Casethejoint

    10:33 am on Mar 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    Further to my last post I found this pretty convoluted Wikipedia page comparing forum software [en.wikipedia.org]. It's pretty poor though. Surely someone can do better! A page like this should include things like system resources required, ideal operating environment, support community, links to popular hacks/themes etc.

    Grassroots

    3:54 pm on Mar 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    I use SMF which for me, is the best forum software available on the web.

    I use it because it's feature rich, is fully customisable, and has a great back end. The front end ain't bad either. Admin features are plentyful, suport from the producers as well as contributors is great, it's SEO friendly and I just love it.

    Wlauzon

    12:18 am on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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    We also use SMF now, got rid of PHPbb.
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