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I want to buy a VERY RELIABLE dedicated server from a
hosting company that also allows me to buy IPs.
I will set up an IP where I will put up ONLY shadow
domains on it. SEs will see highly-optimezed pages and
users will get redirect to my White-Hat sites that are
on the same SERVER but on a different C-class IP.
The reason why I don't want want my shadow domains on
another host, is because I found a very reliable host
and don't want to switch.
Here's my Q:
Will the SEs ban my white-hat site because they figured
out that both the cloaked and white-hat sites were
hosted by the same hosting company?
Here's my #2 Q:
When the cloaked site will be banned, will it be safe
to put more cloaked sites on the same IP the banned
site was on?
QualityNonsense, so what if I get smacked in the head
once or twice? I'll just suck it up, learn the lesson
and improve my strategy.
Probably the best way to do this is to simply get a
server at another host where I'll put my shadow
domains. That will probably solve my problems.
SEs won't ban a site that gets redirected from a shadow
domain because they know a competitor could easily use
that against you.
P.S. I don't want this thread to turn into a "is
cloaking ethical" debate. ;)
Hopefully the nameservers' domains will have different whois info, too.
You can get pretty paranoid worrying about this sort of thing, can't you? ;)
I don't think QualityNonsense was starting an ethical debate... he was just warning you that amateurs can get burned doing this. BUT... the only way to learn is to jump in. I think you are starting off on the right foot by asking these questions. At least you seem to know what kinds of questions you should be asking and you understand that it is important to compartmentalize your risks.
the only way to learn is to jump in.
100% true. First things first, read up on one of the big blackhat blogs on how to segregate whitehat/blackhat projects (eg, different hosts, different C-block IPs, different nameservers, no obvious link network etc).
My opinion is to keep white hat on a completely separate server and at least a different C class. Cloaking can be rewarding but it is also incredibly risky and comes with its own penalties. If you keep everything separate than you are in the best position.