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2:10 am on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure FB is up to the challenge, but they certainly have the resources to throw at it.

Facebook Should Be In China, Says Baidu [blogs.forbes.com]

"...a Facebook entry into China would be fraught with challenges but personally I believe that having Facebook in China, even if it were compelled to abide by China's strict censorship requirements, would still be better than not having it here. I believe that it would be a net positive for China's Internet users. More connectivity is better than less. I felt the same way when Google entered China and acquiesced to the demands of censors: Even though they were censored, they nevertheless helped to expand the information horizons of Chinese Internet users, and I'm very thankful that some compromise was arrived at.


Should FB be in China?

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6:08 am on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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MY Facebook shouldn't be in China, or accessible by anyone in it, especially for data harvesting purposes.
7:36 am on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I am a CHinese .
I think Facebook should not be in China.
BUt I hace a facebook ID By IP agency.
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Should Facebook be in China? Yes, the entire internet should be in China.

Will Facebook be in China? No, China keeps control of their population with information control. Unless there's some Chinese-only branch AND they let the Chinese government monitor it then maybe.
1:56 pm on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Baidu better watch there step unless they want to be taken over by the govt. there.
5:31 pm on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I'm thinking the majority of Chinese youth would love to enjoy Facebook. But with China's strict information control policies, that will likely never happen unless it's a Chinese version controlled by the government.
6:09 pm on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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China can have Facebook so long as they take it lock, stock, and barrel. And then don't give it back.

One can dream the dream.
8:21 pm on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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should fb be in world? no lol
11:59 pm on Dec 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

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More connectivity is better than less.


And the more connected you are, the more monitored you are as well.
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>>Should Facebook be in China? Yes, the entire internet should be in China.

i'm not so sure, it is not for us to tell other countries and cultures what to do, or for us to impose our way of life on other people.

how many millions of man hours are wasted on facebook every week? why would anyone wish that onto another country.
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In China is unable to visit Facebook, Facebook is not suitable for China, China have QQ
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FB shouldn't be in China. Censorship works at two levels: 1) at the source (Gogle SERPS self-censoring) 2) at the network transmition level (the Great Wall)

But when censoring at the source, Google is simply modifying some machine-created output. To censor FB at the source would require FB to monitior all content created by the users, and remove some of it. It is one thing to silence an algorithm (not that I like that), but it is way worse to silence what a real human has written.

Until China stops censoring its citizens, I don't see whjat the point of FB being there would be.

One thing is for sure, if FB goes there, it will be hacked the hell out of it by the government.
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'm not so sure, it is not for us to tell other countries and cultures what to do, or for us to impose our way of life on other people.

how many millions of man hours are wasted on facebook every week? why would anyone wish that onto another country.


Don't get me wrong, I despise Facebook. I think that everyone should be given the freedom to have a choice on the matter though.

But it's a moot point, Facebook won't be entering China anytime soon.
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Welcome to WebmasterWorld fujili and wbo86.

I'm getting the distinct feeling that most of our Chinese members don't want Facebook in China. As stated they already have Chinese FB clones and services like QQ.
7:37 am on Dec 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Tinfoil hat here, and I apologize to fujili and wbo86 for the accusation in advance, but...

Check out their membership pages:

- fujili [webmasterworld.com]
- wbo86 [webmasterworld.com]

You don't think [news.bbc.co.uk]..? (Links to a BBC news article depicting chinese government 'spin doctors')
9:47 am on Dec 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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>>Check out their membership pages:

i take your point, your implication may or may not be true.

however how many members at WebmasterWorld (despite the best efforts of the admins here) are actually working for pr companies or have an agenda to push certain products?

>>I think that everyone should be given the freedom to have a choice on the matter though.

indeed, however i could come up with a very long list of what i consider reasonable things that people are not allowed to do in all kinds of parts of the world including north america and the uk.
 

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