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Google, the Chinese search worse than before!

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hotice_2002

10:31 am on May 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can you image a website in English listed at #1 position while you are searching in Chinese keyphrase on Google?

While searching a very competitive keywords in Chinese, for instance "<snip>"(in English is "<snip>") at [google.com...] (Google Chinese Version) , I found the first resutl is an English site with a gray PageRank. How does google look this site as a relevance result and give it the #1 ranking?

Ok. the second website does not show the keyphrase I am looking for, and only lots of insite anchor links with that keyphrase to that page, if content is KING, how could we explain that?

The results page is as following: <snip>

About two months ago, I said Google Chinese search results became worse than before, now I must say the situation is becoming worse than last time. Does Google attend Chinese end users?

At the same time the sole Chinese Search Engine provider Baidu.com is upgrading their search engine, I think Baidu.com will beat Google in Chinese Search if Google does not change much.

I am looking foward!

[edited by: Woz at 2:42 am (utc) on May 30, 2003]
[edit reason] no specifics please, also fixed URL. [/edit]

bill

1:08 am on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That first link is complete spam. I don't normally bother, but that's a good candidate for the Google SPAM report [google.com]. I agree that those results are terrible. I wonder why this is? Google's Japanese results are not bad at all.

keeper

2:34 am on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The Wayback machine has some data on that domain.

Seems it used to be a chinese site about website design. (Athough my chinese is non-existent)

It possibly still has quite a few links to it, and that is why it is ranking still.

Although, point taken, it shouldn't still be #1.

Woz

2:47 am on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The last Google Update (?) has certainly changed the quality of results across the board, one can only hope there is improvement in the future.

Regards Google China though, my question is whether the quality, or lack there of, is on a par with the general Google quality at the moment, or are there special problems with the Chinese data set? Unfortunately I don't read Chinese so I am not much help here so I will have to throw this over to our compatriots who can read the language.

Onya
Woz

Note: please remember, no specifics please.

hotice_2002

3:40 am on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Woz, thank you, I will pay more attention to my POST.

Hi BILL, you said the first result is sapm, I think I can not agree with you. There is no sign showes that site applied any spammy technology, but Google made the whole thing wrong. Maybe all wrong things are due to LINKS.
I will report it to Google, but there are millions of obviously spam search results in Chinese Search.

For Google, content is NOT king, LINK is KING!
You can beat your competitors in that way easily. I am on this way!

bill

6:10 am on May 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Before your URL got <snipped> the #1 result in the SERP was redirecting me to a domain reseller. It looked to me like someone had auto generated some keywords and possibly cloaked the site. Admittedly that was a very cursory review, but it didn't look like a normal page to me.

links

Yes, I agree, links are still king in Google.

whats up skip

3:40 am on Jun 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are many key words in Japanese that will show English language sites in the top position or top ten on Google.

Melbourne - Melbourne Airport
Melbourne - Melbourne Ports
Melbourne - Melbourne University
(Been like this for over a year)

A few months ago Ian Thorpe gave you the official English language site.

It is tough call as sometimes I could see merrit in these sites being ranked highly, but I agree they should never be number one. It does not make sense.

With Google so completely screwed and out of date, all I can say is thank you Yahoo.co.jp. Sure I know the back fill is Google, but our listing in Yahoo is really paying for itself at the moment.

It will be interesting to see if consumers start to notice the difference in results.